> I just got finished fixing a problem with the
>neck angling back too much, so I've had reason to know >what the
>effect of neck angle will be
Timothy, sounds like you were reading Lundberg's bad advice about
angling the neck back. It should be angled forward. As you see this doesn't
work out so well. Unless you like the strings to float 10mm off the top.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "timothy motz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>;
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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Built-in action?
>Michael,
Sure it does. If the neck angles back it brings the strings closer
to paralleling the neck, assuming that the height of the nut and
bridge stay the same. That in turn means that there is a limit to
how high you can raise the action by raising the nut before the
strings actually angle the wrong way relative to the neck. But the
angle of the neck doesn't have much affect on how high up off the
soundboard the strings will be. That is mostly determined by the
height of the bridge. I just got finished fixing a problem with the
neck angling back too much, so I've had reason to know what the
effect of neck angle will be.
Tim
>
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Built-in action?
>Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:20:55 -0600
>
>>> Vance wrote,
>>>This is not entirely true. The most significant influence >upon
>the action
>>>of the Lute is the relationship between the nut and the >bridge and
>how
>>large
>>>the clearance is at the joint between the neck and the >belly.
>>
>> Vance this isn't true either. The only thing the angle of the
>neck
>>will affect, is how high off the top the strings ride at the bridge.
>It has
>>nothing to do with the action.
>>Michael Thames
>>www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Herbert Ward"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 8:34 AM
>>Subject: Re: Built-in action?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herbert Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:35 PM
>>> Subject: Built-in action?
>>> Hi Herbert:
>>>
>>> You wrote: The action depends on where the _tops_ of the frets
>are,
>>> > which is controlled by the person who chooses the fret
>>> > diameters.
>>> This is not entirely true. The most significant influence upon
>the action
>>> of the Lute is the relationship between the nut and the bridge and
>how
>>large
>>> the clearence is at the joint between the neck and the belly. If
>this is
>>> not right it does not matter what kind of frets you choose to put
>on the
>>> Lute, the action will forever suck. The reason that a Lute over
>time will
>>> develop a slower or higher action is due to this joint becoming
>less than
>>> 180 degrees because the tension of the strings has pulled the neck
>higher.
>>>
>>> Vance Wood.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I have a regard for the dedication and talent of luthiers,
>>> > who build fine instruments from unformed chunks of wood.
>>> >
>>> > Nevertheless, I do not quite understand why they are
>>> > credited with the action of a lute.
>>> >
>>> > The luthier's work merely determines where the _bottoms_
>>> > of the frets are.
>>> >
>>> > The action depends on where the _tops_ of the frets are,
>>> > which is controlled by the person who chooses the fret
>>> > diameters.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
