Lutenists tend stay away from lutes with moving neck joints.....

> 
>> I'm afraid you are wrong!
> 
>> Howard wrote...
>> They would be dysfunctional because the ANGLE OF >THE NECK MAKES THE ACTION
>> TOO HIGH, right?  Which is to say that you can't change >the angle of the
>> neck to the plane of the top without changing the action
> 
> Howard, the fatal flaw in your theory is, your assuming that the neck
> joined at the body can't move, only the nut end can move.
> Michael Thames
> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Built-in action?
> 
> 
>> Michael Thames wrote:
>> 
>>> One
>>> could angle the neck in any direction, north , south, east, and west, up
> or
>>> down whatever, and still , in all those angles, one could simply
> maintain a
>>> constant height of the string over the frets.
>> 
>> I wrote:
>> 
>>> This is geometrically impossible, and you must be talking about a
> different
>>> angle from the one everyone else is talking about.  They're talking about
>>> changing the angle of the neck to the plane of the top.  Imagine a
> triangle
>>> in which point A is the bridge, point B is any fret, point C is the nut,
> and
>>> point D is a point on the string directly above above point B.  You can't
>>> move point C without changing the distance between points B and D.
>> 
>> Michael Thames wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm afraid you are wrong!
>> 
>> If I am, so are you, because your next sentence agrees with what I wrote.
>> 
>>> If your referring to a working functional
>>> instrument, extreme neck angles at some point would be dysfunctional.
>> 
>> They would be dysfunctional because the ANGLE OF THE NECK MAKES THE ACTION
>> TOO HIGH, right?  Which is to say that you can't change the angle of the
>> neck to the plane of the top without changing the action.
>> 
>> This happens all the time: the force of the strings over time pulls the
> neck
>> forward, raising the nut and increasing the depth of the triangle I
>> described, so the action is higher.
>> 
>>> However, in theory or on paper it works doesn't it ? Just look at
> Humphrey's
>>> guitar, and keep imagining more and more of an angle, but instead of
> moving
>>> the neck to change the angle you move the top, which is what he did.
>> 
>> If we're talking about the same instruments, he also builds up the
>> fingerboard to bring it closer to the strings.  Indeed, I usually hear
> about
>> this style of building as "the raised fingerboard."
>> 
>> HP
>> 
>> 

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