Dear Arthur, I feel compelled to apologize to you for this village-idiot. RT
On Jul 5, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Michael Thames wrote: >> There is a belief in some quarters of the guitar world that >the grand > staff is used for keyboard music so that each >hand has a separate > staff. > Hence the Schrade <><(Kohlhase) >staff. But with baroque lute music, > the > right <hand will >frequently play in the bass clef. So the two > <staves do > not >mark a separation point between <thehands. > > Will someone please inform Aurther Ness that there is no "Bass > cleft > " in Baroque lute notation, unless you happen to be an old, world > keyboard, > music historian. Haven't we progressed past the 1930's? mentality? > Michael Thames > www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Greg M. Silverman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Eugene C. Braig IV" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the > Book of > Perrine > > >> There is a belief in some quarters of the guitar world that the grand > staff is used for keyboard music so that each hand has a separate > staff. > Hence the Schrade (Kohlhase) staff. But with baroque lute music, the > right > hand will frequently play in the bass clef. So the two staves do not > mark a > separation point between thehands. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Greg M. Silverman >> To: Eugene C. Braig IV >> Cc: Arthur Ness ; lute list >> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:20 PM >> Subject: Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the > Book of Perrine >> >> >> Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: >> >>> At 08:57 AM 7/2/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: >>> >>> >>>> ...There is a transcrption of the 1680 edition. But it is for > keyboard >>>> (ed.Erdas for Ut Orpheus),and ALL THE SPECIAL FINGERINGS FOR LUTE >>>> ARE > LEFT >>>> OUT!!!! This is a resujlt of that disease guitar players seem to > have, >>>> when they claim that when lute music is in pitch notation it is for >>>> keyboard. >>>> >>>> Lute music in pitch notation has historically often been on two > staves. >>>> That is the standard way of notating lute music in pitch notation. > Harps, >>>> marimbas, hymns are notated on two staves, and we don't call that > keyboard >>>> notation, do we? Guitarists don't know that when you play a >>>> keyboard > the >>>> hands somehow work together automatically. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Well, not ALL guitarists. >>> >>> >> >> Yes, what about those guitarists that also play keyboard. >> >> Greg-- >> >> -- >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > >
