Sorry , I skipped part of the previous message because of too many ( 54) to read all together. I mean, did Gieddes copy the music as he could not afford buying the edition ( or better, it was in use as it is now..)? I seem to remember someone said a descendant of Weiss had been found just looking it up in the directory, I don't remember in which city...Are there many Weisses in Germany?
thanks again Donatella Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: A Trio by Weiss > Arthur, > many thanks for this! > The trio Donatella referred to is exactly the one, that you give. > Opus 3 is also in Kopenhagen: http://img.kb.dk/ma/giedde/gs01-25bm. pdf > > Do you have any further literature on these Weisses? Are they in any > way related to the lutenists Weiss? > > Best regards > Markus > > > Arthur Ness schrieb: >> There were two C. Weisses, father and son flutists born in Muhlhausen. Both travelled in Italy, and later resided in London. The father Carl (1738-1795) published two books of "Six Trios" for flute, violin and bass (London, 1772, 1776). These were extremely popular and later editions appeared in London, Paris, Lyons, Brussels, Leipzig, etc. One of those prints may be the source of the trio Donatella found in manuscript. The father was flutist to George III (!!). He also had some association with the Earle of Abingdon. Remember him? He's the guy who sat in "for Mozart" while Haydn played the lute.<g> We discussed it a few weeks ago. >> >> The son, Carl (or Charles) N. Weiss (1777-1845) was a prolific composer, and left over 100 works for his instrument. Many concertos, studies, potpourris and variations. There's a rather long article on the younger musician in Rockstro, with the pithy comment that CNW "composed a great quantity of not very high-class music, most of which is now forgotten." >> >> Is this the trio Donatella referred to? >> >> http://img.kb.dk/ma/giedde/gs03-09m.pdf >> >> It is the father's Opus 2, No. 1. It was copied by Werner Hans Gieddes (1756-1812), Kapellmeister in Copenhagen. >> >> Yes, I am closing down the CompuServe account. --ajn. >> P.S. Does anyone know what happened to Madame Thibault's "Weiss =E0 Rome" manuscript? It seems NOT to be in the Biblioth=E8que nationale. What does LL455 mean? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Douglas Smith >> To: Tim Crawford ; Arthur Ness >> Cc: Richard Stone >> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:47 PM >> Subject: Fw: Fw: Fw: [LUTE] A Trio by Weiss >> >> >> Art, Tim, and Richard, >> >> Markus knew about the "new" Weiss ensemble, which he found last year. H >> thinks it's too late to be SLW or JSW. Maybe C. Weiss, whoever that is. >> >> Doug >> >> from Markus Lutz: >> >> Das "neue" Weiss-Ensemblewerk hatte ich bereits im vergangenen Jahr >> ausfindig gemacht. Es ist aber wohl eher nicht (vorsichtig ausgedruck) ein >> Werk von J.S. oder S.L. Weiss. Dazu ist es zu modern. Wahrscheinlich passt >> es eher zu C.Weiss, von dem es einige Werke fur Fl=F6te und Basso gibt. Wer >> dieser C. Weiss ist, konnte mir aber noch keiner sagen. >> >> >> PS Incidentally, Arthur, is your compuserve address still valid, or should I >> substitute the verizon? >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.14.25/247 - Release Date: 1/31/2006 >> >> >> -- >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> > > > Tiscali ADSL 4 Mega Flat Naviga senza limiti a 19,95 euro al mese con 4 Megabps di velocità e 2 MESI GRATIS. In più, se sei raggiunto dalla rete Tiscali, telefoni senza pagare il canone Telecom. Scopri subito come risparmiare! http://abbonati.tiscali.it/prodotti/adsl/tc/4flat/
