Here is something else I would like to know if anyone has tried? Ti Chi? I have found it to be a very good, but not aggressive, exercise that stretches more than taxes joints and muscles.
Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "guy_and_liz Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Body pain (was Re: lute straps) > Another possible contributing factor to shoulder pain is strength (or lack > thereof). The shoulder joint depends in a big way on the muscles of the > rotator cuff to hold everything together. I had problems with shoulder pain > several years ago (computers again ...). The orthopedist eventually > determined that the root cause was the simple fact that years of sitting at > a computer for many hours a day and getting most of my exercise on a bicycle > had left my shoulder muscles too weak to properly support the joint. A few > months carefully working with weights to strengthen those muscles largely > eliminated the problem. Not necessarily the solution to every shoulder > problem, but it's something that you should consider. > > Guy > > > >From: Eric Liefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Stephen Arndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > >Subject: [LUTE] Body pain (was Re: lute straps) > >Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 20:09:24 -0600 > > > >Dear Stephen, > > > >I was going to reply privately, but I'll broadcast here in the > >hope this can help others. I too suffer from a variety of pain > >issues in the neck and back, in my case likely caused by > >playing the violin for many years from childhood (in the > >modern school), and exacerbated by computer use. I have > >had frequent severe migraines for at least 35 years. I too > >have been through the gamut of treatments you list (plus > >a few) and I eventually resorted to just taking lots of pain > >medications... not an altogether healthy thing. > > > >In a rather desperate search for help about nine months > >ago I stumbled across a wonderful and well-written book > >("The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook") that has literally > >saved my life. You can find it at http://www.trigerpointbook.com, > >and even get a discount when ordering through their site. > >I think its also widely available at the local Barnes and Noble. > > > >The author, Clair Davies, is a former piano tuner, and he > >has some insights into musician's injuries and issues. He > >basically takes you through every muscle in the body and > >teaches you how to work on them yourself with a few simple > >tools. This may sound strange at first, but I have been > >able to bring about *much* more improvement in my pain > >situation by working on myself than with any other method. > > > >Unlike lots of "treatments" that require a belief system of sorts, > >trigger points are very tangible, easy to find, and based on > >published medical literature. Trigger points are basically > >small contractions in muscle that tend to refer pain in predictable > >patterns that are described and illustrated in the book. Once > >you can understand, isolate, and work on the muscles that > >are causing your pain, I have no doubt that you can resolve > >it quickly. In my own case, I am almost completely off the > >pain meds and I can once again move like a human. > > > >I have also found this book particularly helpful with the > >typical repetitive strain issues encountered when playing > >instruments. > > > >Feel free to contact me off-line if you want more information. > > > >Best, > > > >Eric > > > >ps - The knife was in my *left* shoulder blade... > > > >On May 3, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Stephen Arndt wrote: > > > > > Dear Lute List, > > > > > > A long-time reader though infrequent contributor to this list, I > > > was on the > > > verge of posting a related topic when Katherine initiated the > > > thread on lute > > > straps, a thread that I have followed with great interest. > > > > > > Primarily from using a computer keyboard and mouse, I had developed > > > under my > > > right shoulder blade a "knot" that felt like a knife stabbing me in > > > the > > > back. The problem seemed to be exacerbated by reaching around the > > > lute, > > > which is a rather deep-bodied instrument. From my shoulder the pain > > > seemed > > > to radiate all the way down my arm, inflaming the ulnar nerve and > > > my wrist, > > > and numbing the ring and little finger of my right hand. > > > > > > I made several adjustments to my computer equipment (raising the > > > monitor, > > > switching the mouse to my left hand, etc.) and underwent chiropractic > > > treatment, acupuncture, massage, and medication therapy (muscle > > > relaxers and > > > pain pills). Yet, the problem was still so bad that I worried that > > > I would > > > have to give up the lute. > > > > > > Originally, I held the lute more or less in the classical guitar > > > style, > > > i.e., on my left thigh and using a footstool. Once my physical > > > problems > > > developed, I tried using a strap in the "traditional" manner, i.e., > > > tying it > > > to the first peg, wrapping it around my shoulder, and tucking it in > > > under my > > > right thigh, on which I now rested the body of the lute. Doing so > > > helped but > > > did not really solve the problem. In desperation I drove to the > > > nearest > > > "luthier" (a maker of violins, violas, and cellos, but not of > > > lutes), who > > > was two and a half hours away, and had him put two strap buttons on my > > > instrument, since I was afraid of doing so myself and cracking my > > > instrument. I have since used both a regular, guitar-style strap, > > > attached > > > to the first peg and the clasp button, and the "slider-strap" recently > > > mentioned on this list and attached to the clasp button and another > > > button > > > just below the neck. Doing so seems to have improved my tone since > > > I am able > > > to hold the lute higher, so that my forearm is more closely > > > parallel to the > > > strings, and has also alleviated the pain somewhat. At this point, > > > however, > > > I am merely managing the pain but have not been relieved of it. > > > > > > I would like to ask whether any other members of the lute list have > > > experienced similar physical problems and, if so, how they solved > > > them. I > > > would be very appreciative of any help anyone could give me. > > > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > Stephen Arndt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Katherine Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:08 AM > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute straps > > > > > > > > >> There are lots of renaissance pictures of people > > >> playing lutes while standing up without any sign of a > > >> strap. Does anyone do this? Any ideas on how - or if - > > >> it could be done? > > >> > > >> I'm not having a go at strap-users; I'm just a bit > > >> puzzled - I have enough trouble keeping the thing in > > >> place when I'm sitting down. > > >> > > >> thanks, > > >> Katherine Davies > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> To get on or off this list see list information at > > >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------- > >Eric Liefeld > >(505) 526-1230 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >