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Especially Clips 29, 30 and 39. (Not quite same date, though.) =====AJN (Boston, Mass.)===== * Free Download of the Week from Classical Music Library: *Strauss' _ Don Juan, Op. 20_ Performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra; Sir Charles Mackerras, conductor. Go to my web page and click on Alexander Street Press link: http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ For some free scores, go to: http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/ =================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaroslaw Lipski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lute'" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:37 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Playing in time | Peter | | Obviously I meant tempo - four time-units in one bar of the Pavan is | similar to the three time-units in one bar of the Galliard. This gives an | impression that the pulse keeps almost unchanged in triple time. However the | steps of the Galliard are much more vigorous. It depends on the dancers, but | some of them may show big virtuosity in elaborating their display. We can't | give exact metronomic values to denote Galliard's tempo because it varied | depending on time and country, but the proportions between Pavan and | Galliard remained almost the same. As I said before I doubt very much if | Dowland's Galliards served anybody for dancing ever. And for the same reason | the proportion between his Pavan and Galliard doesn't need to be observed so | rigorously. These were purely instrumental pieces. The dance form remake | was popularly used in the history of music. The music literature abounds | with such examples up to our times. For instance nobody would dance Chopin | Mazurkas. But earlier writers mentioned similar practices. Ch. Burney in | "Music in Germany", London,1773, p.162 writes: | | "The Polish nobleman would gladly give me a specimen of the violin music of | his country, as it depended so much on the coup d'archet, that seeing it on | paper, without hearing it performed, would afford but a very imperfect idea | of it. The Pole added that the kind of music which we call Polonaise, is | played quicker for dancing than at other times" | | Best regards | | | | Jaroslaw | | | | _____ | | From: Peter Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:40 AM | To: Jaros'aw Lipski | Cc: Lute | Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Playing in time | | | | Do you really mean this? Dowland galliards played at the same pulse as his | pavans are going to seem VERY slow. | | | | P | | | | | | On 04/02/2008, Jaros'aw Lipski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Now, back to Melancholy Galliard. There is a misconception concerning this | dance saying that when it goes with its pair - Pavan- the later is slow and | the former brisk and rapid. In fact the pulse of both is exactly the same | with the only difference that Pavan goes in rhythm of four in a bar which | equals three in a bar of Galliard. However the dancers change from stately | movements of Pavin to very fast steps of a Galliard and this is the reason | why people describe it as the fast dance. | | | | | | | | -- | Peter Martin | Belle Serre | La Caulie | 81100 Castres | France | tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | web: www.silvius.co.uk | http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ | www.myspace.com/sambuca999 | www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty | | | -- | | To get on or off this list see list information at | http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html |