Anone with further information could reply to Brad directly. Thanks in advance.
Begin forwarded message: From: Brad McEwen <[1]mill_r...@yahoo.com> Date: January 22, 2009 9:07:28 PM CEST To: Doc Rossi <[2]ro...@cetrapublishing.com> Subject: Re: Fwd: [LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves Reply-To: [3]mill_r...@yahoo.com Doc: Perhaps you could forward this to the lute group as well. I would invite anyone who can help me with this to contact me directly. I am basing my belief that Johnson wrote a duet for lutes on the sleeve notes of an LP by Jakob Lindberg and Paul O-Dette called English Lute Duets from about 1984. On the back cover of the LP (and CD booklet), it is attributed to Johnson, but in the sleeve notes, they say ""it is possible that Sellingers Round and Greensleeves were also written by Johnson.They (the lute duets) date from the same decade as Johnson's duets and their basic compositional style, as well as the idiomatic use of the lute, seem very similar to the known duets of Johnson.". They don't state which MS this lute duet comes from! The same basic version is used on a CD by Estampie entitled Unde the Greenwood Tree. This time this is for solo lute and, again, the source is not stated!!! The same basic version was later used by William Cobbold and arranged for four voices. I just want to know if the MS that this version comes from could be as old or older than the Wm Ballet version, which is the only one that most people are aware of. Does anyone know Jakob Lindberg or Paul O'Dette? Could we ask them? Would they remember? Brad --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Doc Rossi <[4]ro...@cetrapublishing.com> wrote: From: Doc Rossi <[5]ro...@cetrapublishing.com> Subject: Fwd: [LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves To: "Brad McEwen" <[6]mill_r...@yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 1:47 PM Begin forwarded message: From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[7]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> Date: January 20, 2009 10:43:47 PM CEST To: "lute" <[8]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves Oooops, correction : I meant the lute duet in the Folger "Dowland" ms (Ms 1610.1) fDEG 5 and not the Pickering... It's getting late here in France ! Time to get some sleep ;-) ! Jean-Marie ======= 20-01-2009 22:28:12 ======= Oh, I forgot the little lute duet in the Pickering Lute Book... It is not attributed to Johnson either and the date of this manuscript is around 1615, if I remember well. Jean-Marie ======= 20-01-2009 16:53:03 ======= A friend of mine is looking at different versions of Green Sleeves and has asked me if I can help with dating early versions. I can't, but maybe someone here can. He had thought that the William Ballet Lute MS version was the earliest written one. It was compiled between 1595-1610. Does John Johnson's version for two lutes predate Ballet? Thanks, Doc Rossi To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [10]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr [11]http://poirierjm.free.fr 20-01-2009 -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [12]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr [13]http://poirierjm.free.fr 20-01-2009 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mill_r...@yahoo.com 2. mailto:ro...@cetrapublishing.com 3. mailto:mill_r...@yahoo.com 4. mailto:ro...@cetrapublishing.com 5. mailto:ro...@cetrapublishing.com 6. mailto:mill_r...@yahoo.com 7. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 8. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 11. http://poirierjm.free.fr/ 12. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 13. http://poirierjm.free.fr/