Dear Martyn,
Yes, I agree it should be an ivory button. I thought of something else
because the spot seems to be quite big (bigger than usualy buttons are) and
it is placed further from the neck than normaly (my Haycock lute has a
button about 2 mm from the neck). Also the loop seems to be too big to be
fastened to a coat button. The other option is that some other strap or
ribbon was to go around players back and than attached to the loop itself
(not the strap button).
Regards
Jaroslaw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Jarosław Lipski" <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre
The 'white spot' will be a small ivory button round which the holding
gut or tape is looped. Incidentally, there's some doubt that the gut
(or tape) fastened round a coat button: a contemporary engraving shows
thin tapes (or ribbons) coming from the coat buttons (or cld be from
inside the coat ie maybe round the player's back) and leading to the
ivory button.
A picture is in the archives
MH
--- On Sat, 21/2/09, JarosAAaw Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> wrote:
From: JarosAAaw Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 10:00 PM
BTW, am I right that the gut is fixed with some glue near the neck (white
spot)?
JL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart McCoy" <lu...@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Lute Net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Laurent de La Hyre
Dear Jaroslav,
You hook the gut on to one of the buttons of your coat to stabilise the
lute while you are holding it. I seem to remember Mersenne mentioning
it. See also Robert Spencer's article on the theorbo in Early Music.
It
is likely that Mouton is holding his lute this way in the famous
picture of him.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jaros^3aw Lipski [mailto:jaroslawlip...@wp.pl]
Sent: 21 February 2009 18:06
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre
Oh, I've forgot 2 other interesting details.
The frets are double (except last 2), made of a thin gut with knots
on
the treble side.
Both theorbo and the lute on the table has a folded double piece of
gut
going in the middle of the back (longside). It starts from the end
pin
(which is visible on the theorbo) and ends on the white spot (glue?)
close to the place where the body meets the neck. There is a loop
attached to the long gut - maybe some sort of the system for keeping
the instrument while playing. I don't think it served for hanging
the
instrument on the wall. They wouldn't waist such a long piece of
gut
for this purpose. I hang it with a very short piece of used string
attached to the peg box.
Best
Jaroslaw
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