"Jerzy Zak" <jurek...@gmail.com> schrieb: > That reminds me the term rather seldom used nowadays: "teorbierte > laute" (or close to that spelling),
It's become part of the history of research. With Pohlmann (ch. 7), Theorbenlaute was synonymous to theorbierte Laute. According to his definition, Theorbenlauten were lutes with first pegboxes bent back and second pegboxes attached in the direction of the neck. If I'm not mistaken, that's rather what we'd call double-headed lutes today. To complete confusion, he added: "Theorbierte Lauten werden auch Knickhalslauten genannt, die auf dem Wirbelkasten links und/oder rechts Aufsaetze fuer die hoechsten und tiefsten Saiten haben." Theorbierte Lauten are also called Knickhalslauten (lutes with bent-back necks), which have riders on their pegboxes on the left and(or on the right for the highest or lowest strings. Back then, I stood in awe, completely puzzled by this sophisticated "definition". My, o my. > the untranslatable to Polish "re-entrant". It hasn't been appropiately translated to German, either. Some have tried ruecklaeufig (downward, falling, katabatic, recurrent, retrogressive), but in German that term evokes notions of someone running back, and doesn't make clear that the _tuning_ is sort of "coming back". Mathias > On 2009-07-09, at 22:14, Mathias Rösel wrote: > > > And btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archlute is just as sweeping > > IMHO, > > neglecting differences between the liuto attiorbato, the arciliuto and > > the archlute. > > > > Someone put a language link to it into > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzlaute, but that is misleading. The > > German term Erzlaute was meant to be generic. > > > > Mathias > > > > "Jerzy Zak" <jurek...@gmail.com> schrieb: > >> David, > >> Thanks for that. > >> > >> Besides, you've writen a very interesting comment on the "latest > >> semiannual online comparison of video hosting sites > > ". I'm absolutely > >> not qualified to comment on that, but would love to read other's -- > >> just to remind it's still "untouched" by other pluckers. Perhaps some > >> lute exemple > > ?? > >> > >> J > >> _____ > >> > >> > >> On 2009-07-09, at 20:33, David Tayler wrote: > >> > >>> Archlute > >>> dt > >>> > >>> At 11:29 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: > >>>> What is an "Erzlaute"? > >>>> The other instruments pecified on the page are "organ, harpsichord, > >>>> violins, cello, guitar, theorbE". > >>>> > >>>> jz To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
