Regarding the longevity of the usefulness of scholarly citation, as with almost every other concept of the world, "it depends." Some concepts are outdated as soon as they pass the muster of peer review and find their way to print. Some seem to be timeless. Part of being an academic is knowing how to use and cite whatever is still relevant to your field from whenever it originated.
Eugene Day-job academician and university administriviator > -----Original Message----- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of chriswi...@yahoo.com > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 5:22 PM > To: vidan...@sbcglobal.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Ron Andrico > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Terminology: brise > > Ron, > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Ron Andrico <praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Ron Andrico <praelu...@hotmail.com> > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Terminology: brise > > To: vidan...@sbcglobal.net, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 4:44 AM > > > Sadly, most > > articles have an expiration date of say twenty years. > > David: > > As one who greatly values the historical > > research of many great > > scholars in my chosen field, I must > > gently offer a strong disagreement. > > Best, > > Ron Andrico > > Sorry Ron, but I have to agree with David. I'm pursuing my doctorate in > early music performance right now. There's (thankfully!) no dissertation > required for this degree, but I still have to write plenty of lengthy > research papers. I'm not too bright myself, but I've learned enough not > to cite too much material from before 1990 if'n I wants to get me some > plenty good grades. I'm not saying whether this is good or bad, but > that's the way it goes in academia right now. > > Chris > > > > > > > www.mignarda.com > > > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:33:16 > > -0800 > > > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > From: vidan...@sbcglobal.net > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Terminology: > > brise > > > > > > I don't think the material in that > > article is complete and up to > > date. > > > For example, there was a perfectly > > good term for the broken style > > which > > > is Harpege. > > > It isn't clear at all what luthe > > means, it could me "unmeasured" or > > > refer to the separation of the bass > > and the treble, and so on. > > > Sadly, most articles have an > > expiration date of say twenty years. > > > dt > > > At 06:09 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > Danny & all: > > > The article that best defines the > > terminology is > > > "Style brise, Style luthe," and the > > "Choses luthees", by David J. > > > Buch, The Musical Quarterly, Vol. > > 71, No. 1 (1985), pp. 52-67 > > > Best wishes, > > > Ron Andrico > > > [1]www.mignarda.com > > > > Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:22:58 > > -0800 > > > > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > > From: vidan...@sbcglobal.net > > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: > > Terminology: brise > > > > > > > > The fact that it has not yet > > been traced back > > > > does not make it a modern term. > > Articles which > > > > say that it cannot be traced do > > not even have a > > > > footnote saying where they > > looked, they should > > > > have just said they could not > > find it and listed > > > > the sources. I doubt that all > > the sources have > > > > been searched for it. In > > addition, the term > > > > brisee means, among other > > things, plucked in the > > > > 17th century, so it must have > > been used to > > > > describe instruments like the > > harp and the lute. > > > > Dictionaries give plucked as a > > definition as > > > > early as ca1600. There may be > > even parallel > > > > compounds like "accents > > brisees" that people have > > > > not even looked for. Some of > > these may be related > > > > terms, such as cadence brisee > > which is quite > > > > early. I suspect there is a > > more than even chance > > > > an earlier useage of the term > > will surface, and > > > > then we can debate if luthe and > > brise are the same :) > > > > As far as the term luthe, it > > would be better if > > > > we can find out what the lute > > players called it > > > > as the harpsichordists may have > > used a different term. > > > > dt > > > > > > > > At 06:24 AM 11/29/2009, you > > wrote: > > > > >Yes, good point, "style > > brise" is a modern term. > > > > >It's better to use "style > > luthe" instead if we > > > > >really have to use anything > > at all. > > > > > > > > > >JL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message > > ----- From: "Mark Probert" > > > <probe...@gmail.com> > > > > >To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 29, > > 2009 10:34 AM > > > > >Subject: [LUTE] > > Terminology: brise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The recent thread on Saint > > Luc brought up the term "brise" (final > > > > >e-accute) that I had not > > read before. So I went to Groves and > > > found > > > > >that "Style brise" refers > > to a broken appeggiation style, which, > > > in > > > > >reference to early French > > Baroque lute music, I am familiar with. > > > > > > > > > >Interestingly, that term, > > "Style brise", can't be traced back > > > further > > > > >than 1928 and one La > > Laurencie's "Les luthistes" (Paris, 1928). > > > > >Apparently, back in the > > day, Couperin referred to the technique > > > as > > > > >'luthe'. Thing is, he was > > referring to harpsichordists using the > > > lute > > > > >style, not a lutenist using > > that style. > > > > > > > > > >So now we are describing a > > lute technique using a keyboard style > > > name > > > > >that was originally used to > > describe a lute style. 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