> So does the end with the hook go on the bridge or the nut? Perhaps this fishing line would be good for "bass" strings? T > -----Original Message----- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Paul Kieffer Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:08 PM To: Eugene > C. Braig IV Cc: Stathis Skandalidis; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: > [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? > > I've been using carbon fishing line for some time now for just the > top 'g' string on my 10 course lute. It works tremendously well, > lasts incredibly long, and is about 1000 times cheaper than "lute > string." > > If you live in any big or medium sized city, you should be able to > find a store with the right diameter fishing line. > > They have the perfect diameters for the top string, I've tried > anything from .36 mm to .42 mm. > > Make sure you don't get wound fishing line, because it won't > stretch, of course. It just comes apart. > > Just yesterday I bought 140 meters of fishing line at .41mm > diameter. It was around $20 Canadian. This new line has been on my > lute for a day now, and it sounds and works amazing. > > I break the top string quite a bit, and having 140 meters of the > top string is comforting. (If you're in a concert and the g string > breaks...what are you going to do...go backstage and put another > gut string on it, and then wait for it to settle in and then break > again? Or you can just unravel some fishing line, stick it on > there, and bam. > It doesn't need any time to stretch or get settle really.) > > IMO, it's much better to go with this option, than it is to order > strings online from expensive sources (*and many times unreliable). > Also, when you order that stuff online, you pay huge shipping > costs, and you have to wait 1-2 weeks (or 4 or 5). I've wasted a > lot of money ordering actual lute strings when my top string would > break. > > I've had very bad experiences with gut when it comes to the top g > string... it's just not worth the effort or money if you ask > me. > > I was weary at first about using fishing line, but when I put it on > the lute and started playing, it was a miracle. And then I just > keep the remaining 139 meters of string in the case... > > .40 mm tends to be on the larger side for fishing line. but almost > all outdoor and fishing stores have it (and anything from .38-.48). > They will probably think you are some fly fishing expert > > Paul > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV > <[1]brai...@osu.edu> wrote: > > Not all fluorocarbon fishing lines make good strings. I've had > pretty poor luck with Berkley's house brand of fluorocarbon > fishing line. Under continuous tension (e.g., as an instrument > string), I have found it to fray and lose intonation along its > length. I've had much better luck with P-Line CFX flourocarbon > fly fishing leader material. It's much more expensive than large > spools of line, but still much less expensive than an equivalent > length of gut string. Most of the fluorocarbon made for fishing > you'll find will be ca. 0.5 mm or thinner. Best, Eugene > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > > Behalf Of Stathis Skandalidis > > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:04 PM > > To: [4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings? > > > > Dear Arto, > > according to Makoto Tsuruta and his intuitive site > > [1][5]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html > it's the > same material. > As I am living on an island, it > is quite easy at least for me to find > fishing line. > > Regardless your place of residence there are many on-line shops > where > you could order it from. > A 25 m spool Seaguar Grand > Max fishing line 0.405mm diameter costs > around 10 euros. That > spool could give you 3 dozens of strings for a > g-lute, not a > bad business at all! > Stathis > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > From: wikla <[6]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> > To: > [7]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu > Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 11:31:23 PM > > Subject: [LUTE] Carbon strings? > Dearest lute gang, > one > question about the "carbon" string material (=high density > > hydrocarbon > polymer): > I have been using it much, but I > have always ordered it from lute > string > makers. But as > far as I know, this material was developed for a non > lute > > world (fishing?). So, does anyone here really know, if the lute > string > "carbon" and the fishing line "carbon" are the same > thing and the same > quality? If yes, please let me know, where > to get this quality "fishing > carbon"? I guess the fishers > order their stuff in 100's of meters, and > to > me a couple > of meters is the maximum per one string. In the fisher's > way, > > those "unpackaged" strings could be _very_ economical to us > lutenists? > Arto > To get on or off this list see list > information at > > [2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > -- > > References > > 1. > [9]http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html > 2. > [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:brai...@osu.edu > 2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > 3. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > 5. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html > 6. mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi > 7. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > 9. http://www.crane.gr.jp/CRANE_Strings/strings_linesE.html > 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > >
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