I love the appearence and feel of the non-geared pegs on my Stephen Gottlieb 11c Warwick. A number of lutenists who tried this lute told me they were the best pegs thay had used. Nevertheless, following a three week stay in very humid Normandy, I returned to relatively dry Paris, and found the majority of my pegs completely stuck. I was quite unable to move them by hand and even had great difficulty in moving them at all, using a very handy wooden tool made by Wolfgang Fruh, here in Paris. I was terrified that either a peg would break, or the peg-box would crack, but finally they all did move, without visible damage. Nevertheless, if it wasn't for the fact that Stephen's pegs are beautiful, and Wolfgang's peg mover does bring a sort of geared control to them, I would gladly adopt geared pegs, just to avoid another similar episode, after my next trip back to Normandy. Initially, I was very doubtful about Wolfgang's peg turner, fearing the added force could bring damage, but it does seem to work very well indeed, and gives more precision and accuracy than just using unaided hand-force, which almost always leads to overshoot. It is definitely worth trying one of these, they look good and seem to work well (and it doesn't slip off the peg, as some similar tools are said to do); although I will not accept responsibility for any broken peg-boxes ... Anthony ---- Message d'origine ---- >De : "David Tayler" <vidan...@sbcglobal.net> >A : "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >Objet : ***SPAM***[LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute >Date : 21/06/2010 03:55:22 CEST > >It did not stick on the nut--I think he used a real nut, like a Brazil nut. > d > > At 06:23 PM 6/20/2010, you wrote: > >It can be on many lutes, but not on this particular nut. > > > >ed > > > >At 08:16 PM 6/20/2010, Miles Dempster wrote: > > > > >But isn't there still the problem of the strings sticking on the nut? > > > > > >Miles > > > > > >On 2010-06-20, at 9:07 PM, Edward Martin wrote: > > > > > > > I saw this lute in Dan Larson's shop yesterday. It is a very, very > > > > nice Frei, and yes, the pegs, or kegs, or whatever you want to call > > > > them, are very nice, very interesting. They are, as DT says, smooth > > > > as butter, and they will never slip, as pegs do. They are plain, but > > > > very attractive.. > > > > > > > > I don't know the cost, but I think Dan said somewhere around $30 > > > > each. But, what an improvement over friction pegs! Not only can one > > > > tune more accurately, but quicker, with no errors, i.e., > > > > slipping. Yes, they do need to be fitted by a luthier, but Dan > > > > informs me they are quite easy to put in. > > > > > > > > The person who sells these gears has been after Dan for a while, to > > > > try them on lutes, but Dan resisted, thinking the weight was too > > > > much. But, There is no noticeable difference in weight that I could > > > > discern as compared to pegs, and the sound is not affected in any > way. > > > > > > > > I am most impressed. I have ordered a set for my vihuela. > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:21 PM 6/20/2010, Edward Mast wrote: > > > >> I don't have geared pegs on my cello, but know a cellist - and a > > > >> violinist - who does. They like them a lot. My questions would be: > > > >> 1) How much would each peg for a lute cost? > > > >> 2) Would they need to be fitted by a luthier, or could the player > > > >> do it him/herself? > > > >> 3) Assuming a peg with gears weighs more than a plain wooden peg > > > >> (?), would geared pegs add significantly to the weight of the peg > > > >> box? Enough to change the balance of the instrument? > > > >> > > > >> Ned > > > >> On Jun 20, 2010, at 3:33 PM, David Tayler wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> At BFX 2010, I had the opportunity to play Dan Larson's Frey lute. > > > >>> Well, first off, this was a really nice lute, and all gut strung > with > > > >>> some really cool strings. > > > >>> This lute also had geared pegs, which look just like real pegs. I > > > >>> mean, they are real pegs, not imaginary pegs, but hopefully you > know > > > >>> what I mean. > > > >>> I have seen the pegs for some time now on Gambas, but this was my > > > >>> first lute adventure. > > > >>> The pegs work great! They turn like butter, but have an internal > > > >>> braking system to stop them from "frapping" to use the historical > term. > > > >>> You can see very detailed photos of the lute on Flickr > > > >>> [1]http://www.flickr.com/photos/voicesofmusic/sets/72157624142677939/ > > > >>> > > > >>> I would love to have a cittern or orpharion with these pegs! > > > >>> dt > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at > > > >>> [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Martin > > > > 2817 East 2nd Street > > > > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > > > > e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > > > > voice: (218) 728-1202 > > > > [3]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > > > > [4]http://www.myspace.com/edslute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Edward Martin > >2817 East 2nd Street > >Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > >e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > >voice: (218) 728-1202 > >[5]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > >[6]http://www.myspace.com/edslute > > >
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