Also, somewhat contra-intuitive, try tightening the string first - not
releasing it - to break the static friction and any residual wedging of
peg paste. Then release the tension.
MH
--- On Mon, 21/6/10, Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote:
From: Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re Re: geared pegs and [Wolfgang's peg turner]
To: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Monday, 21 June, 2010, 10:59
Dear Anthony and All,
If your pegs stick because they have swollen or the pegbox has shrunk,
try putting the pegbox near a source of gentle heat such as a desk lamp
- no need for it to be hot, just slightly warmer than the
surroundings. That will reduce the humidity and may take you back to
where you started. Using force without trying to modify the humidity
is not recommended!
Best wishes,
Martin
Anthony Hind wrote:
> I love the appearence and feel of the non-geared pegs on my
Stephen
> Gottlieb 11c Warwick. A number of lutenists who tried this lute
told me
> they were the best pegs thay had used. Nevertheless, following a
three
> week stay in very humid Normandy, I returned to relatively dry
Paris,
> and found the majority of my pegs completely stuck.
> I was quite unable to move them by hand and even had great
difficulty
> in moving them at all, using a very handy wooden tool made by
Wolfgang
> Fruh, here in Paris. I was terrified that either a peg would
break, or
> the peg-box would crack, but finally they all did move, without
visible
> damage.
> Nevertheless, if it wasn't for the fact that Stephen's pegs are
> beautiful, and Wolfgang's peg mover does bring a sort of geared
control
> to them, I would gladly adopt geared pegs, just to avoid another
> similar episode, after my next trip back to Normandy.
> Initially, I was very doubtful about Wolfgang's peg turner,
fearing the
> added force could bring damage, but it does seem to work very well
> indeed, and gives more precision and accuracy than just using
unaided
> hand-force, which almost always leads to overshoot.
> It is definitely worth trying one of these, they look good and
seem to
> work well (and it doesn't slip off the peg, as some similar tools
are
> said to do); although I will not accept responsibility for any
broken
> peg-boxes ...
> Anthony
> ---- Message d'origine ----
> >De : "David Tayler" <[1]vidan...@sbcglobal.net>
> >A : "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <[2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> >Objet : ***SPAM***[LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson's lute
> >Date : 21/06/2010 03:55:22 CEST
> >
> >It did not stick on the nut--I think he used a real nut, like a
Brazil
> nut.
> > d
> >
> > At 06:23 PM 6/20/2010, you wrote:
> > >It can be on many lutes, but not on this particular nut.
> > >
> > >ed
> > >
> > >At 08:16 PM 6/20/2010, Miles Dempster wrote:
> > >
> > > >But isn't there still the problem of the strings sticking on
the
> nut?
> > > >
> > > >Miles
> > > >
> > > >On 2010-06-20, at 9:07 PM, Edward Martin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I saw this lute in Dan Larson's shop yesterday. It is a
very,
> very
> > > > > nice Frei, and yes, the pegs, or kegs, or whatever you
want to
> call
> > > > > them, are very nice, very interesting. They are, as DT
says,
> smooth
> > > > > as butter, and they will never slip, as pegs do. They are
> plain, but
> > > > > very attractive..
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know the cost, but I think Dan said somewhere
around
> $30
> > > > > each. But, what an improvement over friction pegs! Not
only can
> one
> > > > > tune more accurately, but quicker, with no errors, i.e.,
> > > > > slipping. Yes, they do need to be fitted by a luthier, but
Dan
> > > > > informs me they are quite easy to put in.
> > > > >
> > > > > The person who sells these gears has been after Dan for a
> while, to
> > > > > try them on lutes, but Dan resisted, thinking the weight
was
> too
> > > > > much. But, There is no noticeable difference in weight
that I
> could
> > > > > discern as compared to pegs, and the sound is not affected
in
> any
> > way.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am most impressed. I have ordered a set for my vihuela.
> > > > >
> > > > > ed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:21 PM 6/20/2010, Edward Mast wrote:
> > > > >> I don't have geared pegs on my cello, but know a cellist
- and
> a
> > > > >> violinist - who does. They like them a lot. My questions
would
> be:
> > > > >> 1) How much would each peg for a lute cost?
> > > > >> 2) Would they need to be fitted by a luthier, or could
the
> player
> > > > >> do it him/herself?
> > > > >> 3) Assuming a peg with gears weighs more than a plain
wooden
> peg
> > > > >> (?), would geared pegs add significantly to the weight of
the
> peg
> > > > >> box? Enough to change the balance of the instrument?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ned
> > > > >> On Jun 20, 2010, at 3:33 PM, David Tayler wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> At BFX 2010, I had the opportunity to play Dan Larson's
Frey
> lute.
> > > > >>> Well, first off, this was a really nice lute, and all
gut
> strung
> > with
> > > > >>> some really cool strings.
> > > > >>> This lute also had geared pegs, which look just like
real
> pegs. I
> > > > >>> mean, they are real pegs, not imaginary pegs, but
hopefully
> you
> > know
> > > > >>> what I mean.
> > > > >>> I have seen the pegs for some time now on Gambas, but
this
> was my
> > > > >>> first lute adventure.
> > > > >>> The pegs work great! They turn like butter, but have an
> internal
> > > > >>> braking system to stop them from "frapping" to use the
> historical
> > term.
> > > > >>> You can see very detailed photos of the lute on Flickr
> > > > >>>
>
[1][3]http://www.flickr.com/photos/voicesofmusic/sets/72157624142677939
/
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I would love to have a cittern or orpharion with these
pegs!
> > > > >>> dt
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
> > > > >>>
[2][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Martin
> > > > > 2817 East 2nd Street
> > > > > Duluth, Minnesota 55812
> > > > > e-mail: [5...@gamutstrings.com
> > > > > voice: (218) 728-1202
> > > > >
[3][6]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name
> > > > > [4][7]http://www.myspace.com/edslute
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Edward Martin
> > >2817 East 2nd Street
> > >Duluth, Minnesota 55812
> > >e-mail: [8...@gamutstrings.com
> > >voice: (218) 728-1202
> >
>[5][9]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name
> > >[6][10]http://www.myspace.com/edslute
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> References
>
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> 2. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
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> 5. [15]http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name
> 6. [16]http://www.myspace.com/edslute
>
>
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