Dear Arthur, All I meant to say was that the keyboard arrangements cannot be played on the lute. And I fr one do consider the Wandervogel lute a proper lute, btw. Furthermore, many of these arrangements have instrumental introductions that have been specifically composed for the piano. The Wandervogel people are led into the parlour >8)
Arthur, you know all these things, but let me say it nevertheless: Wandervogel Lieder were intrinsically tied to outdoors wandering, Wandervogel people strumming their lutes and guitars. There was no need of artful playing techniques. No pianos rambling on the roads, chords was all they needed. Wandervogel Lieder are still sung in quite a few circles where the way of Wandervogel thinking and their way of life still is alive. Most of them elderly people, of course, singing inside the houses more often than outdoors. Wandervogel lyrics really deserve attention, way not all of it belongs to the Volksmusik rubbish that you can see on German TV. But it takes a good command of German. Best wishes, Mathias > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: A. J. Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. März 2011 23:13 > An: "Mathias Rösel"; Lute List > Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs > > Dear Mathias, > > I didn't mean it to be a substitute for any number of books with songs from that > repertory. Indeed the Zupfgeigenhansl is available in many, many editions > offered by antiquarian dealers, and range in size (and hence number of opieces) > from 95 to 138 pages. > > Use the Karlsruhe Connection (last column) to locate copies: > http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/kvk_en.html > > The volumes I cited, Was die Wandervögel, have nearly 800 songs, and are > available for "Laute (Gitarre)," also, but only with chord accompaniments. > > So, a lute accompaniment arranged from Krome's keyboard arrangement might > be more interesting. > > The book mentioned by Wolfgang also has interesting pieces because they draw > upon such old songs. > > Here again is Wolfgang's link to the online facsimile: > > http://www.mediafire.com/?dxceoidm4p4xfmi > > Perhaps we should be paying closer attention to the Wandervögel Lieder. > > Greetings from Boston, Arthur. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> > To: "A. J. Ness" <arthurjn...@verizon.net>; "Lute List" > <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:26 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Wandervögel Songs > > > > You'll have all the tunes and lyrics from this edition, at least. But > > these are adaptations for the keyboard, definitely no more feasible on the > > lute. > > > > Quite a few copies of Der Zupfgeigenhandel are still floating around ( > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Zupfgeigenhansl ), why not take one of > > those. > > > > Mathias > > > > > > > > > Some of you may be interested in this collection in several volumes > > > with hundreds of songs (alas arranged for piano, but originally for > > > lute-guitar): > > > > > > [1]http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 > > > > > > Publication Name: Was die Wandervögel singen ... für > > > Klavier bearbeitet und herausgegeben von Hermann Krome. Illustriert > > > von Paul Telemann. Band I-IV. > > > Arranger:Krome, Hermann (1888 - 1955) > > > > > > Is anyone out there interested in this repertory? Roman? > > > > > References > > > > > > 1. http://hdl.handle.net/1802/14257 > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
