Dear Ed and Lex, The Rhétorique has a rather complicate story. In short: - The Rhétorique is a manuscript on vellum. There are no printed things in it - the pictures are painted as washed ink drawings (German: lavierte Tuschzeichnung). - There was a concept who included painters, goldsmiths, men of letters, calligraphs and at least one musician (Denis Gaultier). - The concept was not successfully and completely executed. The whole book is prepared for the tablature entries - but nearly half of the book doesn't contain music. One paper sheet with an "Accord" (but not an accord in the helpful way to tune the basses) was always inserted between the drawing and the first prepared tablature sheet. - The musical entries of "Notator A and B" (we have to distinguish between the text scribes and the musical notators) can not be taken as primary source or "autographs" from Denis Gaultier.
Some thoughts I published in 1987 (very old and now partially revised) are here in an English translation: http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/DownloadD/files/Rhetorique_Englisch.pdf http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/DownloadD/files/Beispiele%20Rhetorique.pdf You can compare my text with the "main points" given by David Buch in his article in the journal of the LSA... François-Pierre Goy and me are still working on the edition of all works of Notator B (who worked also in B-Bc FA VI 10, D-Fschneider Ms. 12, F-Pn Rés. Vm7 375, Ms. Pérelle, and S-Smf MMS 23). This edition who includes facsimiles of D-Fschneider Ms. 12 and S-Smf MMS 23 and all 33 pieces in parallel readings in Fronimo will finally appear in May at the Festival der Laute in Vienna. In the next week I will see the original in Berlin to solve some riddles of the work process on that manuscript. Andreas Am 22.01.2012 um 12:40 schrieb Lex van Sante: > Hi Ed, > > The Rhétorique des Dieux was a manuscript, made in honour of Denis Gaultier. > Hence the fancy cover. > At the beginning of every series of pieces in a certain mode there is a > picture which is supposedly an image of its mood. > 14 pictures were made by Abraham Bosse (one of which after a design of > Eustache Le Sueur) one was made by Robert Nanteuil I(also designed by Le > Seuer) > It is a source of wonder why there are no embellishments whatsoever notated > in the tablature. > A possible explanation could be that Gaultier was not involved at all with > the production of the manuscript. > > Lex > > Op 22 jan 2012, om 02:08 heeft Ed Durbrow het volgende geschreven: > >> Excellent recording. I like the snappiness of your trills. I left a >> response on YT. >> >> I have a question. All those images were from the book? So it was a >> published book, right? But the cover of that book was just too >> beautiful. Surely they didn't sell the books with covers like that. Was >> this a common practice to have a custom binding or cover made for a >> published book? Does that read AA, AOA, HH HOH or what? Do we know who >> owned that copy? Gee, I guess that was more than 'a' question. :-) >> >> TIA >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 4:50 PM, hera caius wrote: >> >> I have uploaded two "very famous" pieces by Denis Gaultier on >> youtube. >> Home recording. >> If anyone interested: >> [1][1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog >> Caius >> -- >> References >> 1. [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> Ed Durbrow >> Saitama, Japan >> [4]http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch >> [5]http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ >> [6]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog >> 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog >> 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> 4. http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch >> 5. http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ >> 6. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ >> > > >
