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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
William Samson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:47 PM
To: David Tayler; lute
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone

   I'm afraid you are correct, David.  Of course Bob Spencer isn't to
   blame - he just wrote up what was known at the time.  The trouble is
   that much of what is now known (and much of what was known in Spencer's
   time too) hasn't been put into practice by musicians.  How
   many performances using the 'English' theorbo, with stepped nuts and
   double courses in the diapasons, have we heard?  And yet the late 17th
   century was a very rich time in the development of music and
   instruments.  According to Mace this theorbo sometimes had only the top
   course tuned down an octave - There aren't many theorboes tuned like
   that these days.

   There's still plenty of fallow ground for players of plucked
   instruments who are prepared to stray from the mainstream and for
   researchers to back them up.

   Bill
   From: David Tayler <vidan...@sbcglobal.net>
   To: lute <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012, 18:28
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone
       Research into the Chitarrone stopped after the publication of the
     famous article by Spencer, et al. This had the astonishing effect of
     erasing, removing and deleting the Chitarrone from the early music
     performance revival. Collateral effects include the sidelining of the
     many other types of extended neck instruments that were developed in
     the early 17th century. Renewed interest into the research of this
   and
     other instruments will yield clues as to the specific meanings of the
     contemporaneous terms as well as hopefully renew interest in playing
     the instruments.
     Erasing instruments is not new; the dulcian was completely erased for
     decades before one was discovered with an identifying label in a
   sunken
     pirate ship. Now people are playing it again.
     --- On Tue, 10/16/12, Bruno Correia <[1]bruno.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
       From: Bruno Correia <[2]bruno.l...@gmail.com>
       Subject: [LUTE] Chitarrone
       To: "List LUTELIST" <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
       Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 6:11 PM
         The Grove Dictionaire says about the chitarrone:
         "The type of lute denoted by this humanist, classicizing term
         (chitarrone means, literally, a large kithara) was associated
         particularly with Jacopo Peri, Giulio Caccini and the other early
         writers of monody from the 1590s until about 1630."
         Has anybody challenged this etymology? Wouldn't be safe to say it
         simply derived from the chitarra (guitar)? Is was developed in
   the
         first place to acompany, playing chordally from a contino line,
   just
     as
         the 5 course guitar would do, though without the struming
   technique.
         The solo repertoire that came later looks very close to the
   guitar
         writing: chords a little counterpoint, arpeggios, slurs,
   campanellas
         efect e so on...
         --
         Bruno Correia
         Pesquisador autonomo da pratica e interpretac,ao
         historicamente informada no alaude e teorba.
         Doutor em Praticas Interpretativas pela
         Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro.
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