I forgot to mention that I also googled other paintings by Vignole and
can't find any others showing a lute, so I can't cross check that way.
Bill
From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: David Van Edwards <da...@vanedwards.co.uk>
Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 17:41
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute painting
Hi David and Roman,
Yes - The Rauwolf/Molinaer type what what first occurred to me, but
the
basses wouldn't be offset in that case. Another oddity is the very
narrow, parallel-sided neck which wouldn't match Rauwolf (or any
other
lute) either. And yet, to me, the body of the lute is perfectly
proportioned - Rose in the right place; bridge details correct
- suggesting that the artist knew his lutes. So why the odd neck?
I wonder if the painting was altered at some stage by another artist?
Maybe it was originally a big 7c or 8c instrument and somebody
decided
to bring it 'up to date' with an extended neck and a load of
diapasons.
Anyway - I very much doubt if we've hit upon a new, hitherto unknown
lute type.
Best regards,
Bill
From: David Van Edwards <[1]da...@vanedwards.co.uk>
To: William Samson <[2]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Lute List <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013, 15:07
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Lute painting
Dear Bill,
I assume one of these.
[1][4]http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/93.tif
Sixtus Rauwolf Augsburg 1599 now in Copenhagen No. 93
This is the sole survivor of this type that Molenaer made famous. But
your painting has the lower strings offset in in a strange, rather
excessive, manner. Maybe a case of dodgy perspective rather than
distortion. But if the offset is genuine then the upper pegbox must
be something other, and to me unknown.
Best wishes,
David
At 13:54 +0000 4/2/13, William Samson wrote:
> I wonder what the layout of the upper head of this lute might
be?
>
> [1][2][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/icon/party-1.gif
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> Artist Jacopo Vignale, early 17th Century.
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> Bill
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