Hi Roman,
> Segovia was not incompetent, he was simply unmusical. He wasn't alone in > that, among the stars of his day. Pablo Casals also comes to mind, and not a > few violinists. > RT > > Hmmm… we enter a very subjective territory here. Someone called unmusical for one may seem epitome of musicality for another. Segovia is not in my liking either, but many people appreciate his romantic, singing tone quality which is very unique nowadays. Best Jaroslaw > > > On 12/18/2013 2:10 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> The Segovia film is nice in its own way, it was probably interesting for at >>> least a part of the audience at the time it was recorded, >>> sounds completely outdated and boring for most people today, >> >> It's fine with me if you don't find it interesting. It's just a personal >> taste (for many his playing is still very attractive - see comments under >> his videos). I've sent this link only to address some posts that suggested >> Segovia's incompetence as a player. >> >>> and may be rediscovered in the future for some reason we would never even >>> think of. >>> Is it somehow related to the lute? >>> Bream played something thought to be a lute in his own time, so he may be >>> discussed here? >>> Had Segovia anything to do with the lute besides the repertoire? And if it >>> is the repertoire, may we include Andre Rieu here? He also plays some of >>> the most extended lute repertoire… >> No, but I didn't start this thread. The subject says: " I just noticed we >> got so far away from the [LUTE]-forum" No, but seriously, people were >> discussing Segovia's attitude towards art and teaching (see below), so this >> is my reply to that part of the thread. >> Sorry if you find any problem in it. >> And I'm not trying to defend Segovia (I'm wholeheartedly with Michael), but >> I'm rather trying to find a reasons (context) of Segovia's reactions. I've >> seen this kind of attitude before, so probably this is why I'm not surprised >> so much. >> >> Regards >> >> Jaroslaw >> >> >>> Em 18.12.2013, às 14:00, Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> escreveu: >>> >>> Segovia could have been polite and gentle providing that a student followed >>> his remarks, fingerings etc. This is nothing extraordinary in music, and >>> there are similar reported cases from the past centuries . Some big >>> Maestros were known for bullying un-subjugated pupils. (Bach was known for >>> bullying kids from his choir). This is not a good excuse obviously, >>> especially in our modern world, however it gives me a thought how both >>> performance practice and teaching evolved. >>> BTW for those of you who doubt Segovia's competence as a guitarist there is >>> a short, live video from 50's (Torroba's Sonatina in particular). >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjRLpE_TzdA >>> >>> Enjoy >>> >>> Jaroslaw >>> >>> >>> Wiadomość napisana przez gary w dniu 18 gru 2013, o godz. 04:08: >>> >>>> How does one go about preventing the tastes of one person from "shaping >>>> the tastes of an art"? Van Gogh couldn't sell a painting to save his life >>>> during his own time because of the prevailing taste of his era. Popularity >>>> is a factor in determining an era's tastes in art. It seems unfair to >>>> fault Segovia for accepting his popularity and using it to further his own >>>> taste. I'm sure from Segovia's point of view in promoting his own tastes >>>> he was protecting the integrity of the guitar and the music. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-12-17 13:13, Braig, Eugene wrote: >>>>> . . . Not to mention a huge body of dedicated baroque- and >>>>> romantic-era repertoire for guitar that was forgotten for generations >>>>> because Segovia didn't like it and instead opted to create a body of >>>>> repertoire through transcription. I don't think Segovia can be blamed >>>>> for his tremendous popularity, but there is a danger in allowing the >>>>> tastes of one person shape the state of an art. >>>>> Respectfully, >>>>> Eugene >>> >>> -- >>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
