I guess I'm your boy.
I taught myself guitar,A starting at age 9 (having started 'cello the
previous year)A and played mostly folk styles (including Travis
picking). Never once was I able to play with a finger grounded on the
guitar top plate.
At about 21, I taught myself classical guitar, largely through tab from
Fredrick Noad' so book. I had already been reading Holborn from
Kanizowa(sp?) on guitar,A capo 3 g-string down a half tone.
When I got home from the cruise (USN) my wide revealed that she'd had
classical guitar lessons (Fredrick Hand) and approved of my hand
position,A and showed me exercises she'd been given for rest stroke.
In about 1980, we started playing with UCONN's Collegial,A under
BruceA Bellingham. They had a reality,A but it was perpetually on
loan.A I restrict the 13-course lute as a re-enter,A Holborn tuning
and confident diaphanous from there down. I used guitar technique,A
and it sucked.A i sucked worse at soprano Shawn,A so it may be
understandable that I got a pass.A (Although I was the inspiration for
remarks about letting and pillaging,A andA 'from the sublime to the
ridiculous.)
To make a 51-year story short(er),A bent-wrist rest-stop technique on
lute is self-defeating.A The described banana finger technique makes
the string sound better. PERIOD.
We all know that Bream largely used guitar technique and did well
(enough to bring many of us to the lute.) He also had a guitar - style
saddle and bridge,A nylon and silk and over spun strings,A etc.
On Aug 3, 2014 12:04 PM, "Tony" <[1]ascbrigh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
A A This thread has inspired A a heretical thought about playing
baroque
A A lute - I can imagine it sounding ok without pinky A on
soundboard and A a
A A modified guitar-style technique. I haven't tried out my heresy
(I would
A A misjudge the bass-courses without the pinky to help judge
distances),
A A but with a more secure thumb technique than i currently have
..... I
A A guess someone somewhere has tried it, and I would be curious to
know to
A A what extent it works
A A On Ren lute I aim to do exactly what David suggests, bendy
banana
A A fingers and all. I actually can (and at first did) play a Ren
lute with
A A guitar technique though the sound is in comparison a bit
disappointing
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: David van Ooijen <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com>
A A To: lutelist Net <[3]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
A A Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2014, 6:17
A A Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.
A A A Necessity of pinky on top is not the answer to why it's
there. On
A A A R-lute, if you hold your hand in such a manner that the
thumb has a
A A A good angle of striking both strings of a pair, and do
likewise with
A A A your index finger, all relaxed, thumb-inside, hand a little
cupped,
A A A fingers like slightly bend bananas, your pinky is bound to
touch the
A A A top, unless you'd stick it out to prevent it touching. It's
not the
A A top
A A A of the pinky that rests like a crutch on the top, but the
last digit
A A A that gently slides along as the hand moves up and down in
alternating
A A A thumb-index stroke.
A A A David
A A A *******************************
A A A David van Ooijen
A A A [1][1][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com
A A A [2][5]www.davidvanooijen.nl
A A A *******************************
A A A On 29 July 2014 06:34, howard posner
<[3][2][6]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
A A wrote:
A A A On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Mayes, Joseph
<[4][3][7]ma...@rowan.edu>
A A wrote:
A A A > Zowie!! Just mention, in passing that one of the sacred
cows is
A A A somehow not the best idea, and the floodgates open!
A A A A Well, the writer said (and not in passing a it was the
sole subject
A A A A of his post) that resting the little finger on the top
was a
A A A A "crutch" and "undeveloped right-hand technique," because
he didn't
A A A A understand that it was a considered and common part of
lute
A A A A technique; a little like telling a horn player to get his
hand out
A A A A of the bell because it might affect the sound, or telling
an
A A A A electric guitar player "it's insane to stick electrical
wires in a
A A A A guitar! Unplug that damn thing before you get
electrocuted, you
A A A A fool!." A The writer lacked basic information, and it's a
function
A A A A of this group to disseminate information. A So I don't
think you've
A A A A got much cause to be zowieing.
A A A > In all of this justification for using the pinky on the
face, I
A A have
A A A heard nothing by way of explaining why it's necessary.
A A A A Not surprising, since nobody in this thread has asked why
it's
A A A A necessary, which in turn is probably because nobody has
said it's
A A A A necessary.
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