Most probably Gauthier refers to Jacques Gaultier d’Angleterre. After killing his opponent in a duel Gaultier came to England in 1617. He was a member of King’s Musick beginning with 1619 until 1648. Although Lord Herbert traveled both to France and Rome he returned to London in 1617, so he had a good opportunity to meet Jacques Gaultier who played there several times. In 1619 Edward Herbert went back to Paris as an ambassador to the French court, but had to leave after he opposed marriage between Prince Charles and Henrietta Maria. King James in return banished him to Ireland were Herbert spent almost 9 years, but from 1628 he was allowed to return to Montgomery castle. The type of bindings in olive morocco was already used in France by George Drobet on a book for Marie de Medicis in 1611, so there are big chances that his lute book was bound most probably in Paris, or it was bought by him ready made from a bookseller on one of his trips to Paris (maybe from Ballards?). On the other hand Lord Cherbury was an amateur lute player and he most probably used to copy pieces to his lute book from some loose sheets of paper dated probably much earlier, and which he acquired from renown lute players that he met. This is why we can’t be sure about exact dates and attribution of particular pieces, but it seems very likely that he met Jacques Gaultier on several occasions and he is the most likely composer of the compositions in question.
Best JL > Wiadomość napisana przez Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com> w dniu > 02.02.2018, o godz. 19:04: > > > There are two possible connections between Cherbury and Ennemond > Gautier: both were connected to the Montmorency household, and Cherbury > was acting as English ambassador at court when Ennemond moved there ca. > 1620. Yet Ennemond was apparently stingy when it came to sharing his > music and the music in the Cherb MS seems more representative of his > earlier stay in France and is consistently using the vieil ton. So I > still think that Jacques Gautier (d'Angleterre) is the more likely > author of the Adieu. > I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site > alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given > its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources > numbers...) > Alain > > On 02/02/2018 02:55 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: > > We do learn at all ages indeed ;-)! > Au passage, thank you Alain for all your hard work so useful to all of us ! > Jen-Marie > > > Le 2 févr. 2018 à 11:10, G. C. [2]<kalei...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter > (found on Alain's site). The fact that some of the pieces have > concordances in both Besard (1603) and Varietie (1610), also exclude > Jacques. > By the way, Alain, you should look at the concordances by Peter Steur > to update those on the Fandango Cherbury page, where the ms. is not too > unreadable. Very nice work, thanks Alain! > G. > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:25 AM, Alain Veylit > [3]<[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: > Just a couple of points of recent history: back some 10 or 15 years > ago, Joel Dugot from the French lute society > > -- > > References > > 1. [4]mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > -- > > References > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4fsnOIpCE > 2. mailto:kalei...@gmail.com > 3. mailto:[1]al...@musickshandmade.com > 4. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com > 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
