Dear Ed

the Minkoff facsimile comes with an introduction (in English as well as in 
French) by Claude Chauvel. He cites and translates Galilei's adress to the 
readers. No help with your question, though ...

Uwe Wolf has written in his PhD thesis (published 1992) something to the effect 
that the repeat sign would mean to leave out in the repeat what makes the first 
measure of the first part complete, but then his example is music where this 
first measure begins with pauses, not with notes as in the piece in question 
here. Personally, I do more or less so: play the half note as a quarter note, 
insert a 'breath' and go on with notes two and three of the first measure. I am 
not aware of any contemporary instructions or explanations which would be of 
help here, but that does not mean that there aren't any ...

Best

Joachim

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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Il primo libro d'intavolatura di liuto Galilei repeat bars
Datum: 2019-01-05T12:28:00+0100
Von: "Ed Durbrow" <edurb...@gmail.com>
An: "Matthew Daillie" <dail...@club-internet.fr>, "lute list" 
<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>

What you type more or less aligns with the way I interpret it, if I understand 
you correctly. However, some well known players do not interpret it so. For 
example, in the first C maj volt, they hold the half note at the repeat mark 
bar for three beats and then start over. I and you, I think, would hold it for 
two beats and insert the last beat of measure one on the repeat. I was 
wondering if they know something we don’t, if Galilei mentions anything (my 
original question), if (there must be) other examples of similar structures and 
if any contemporary explains what to do.

Again if anybody can point me to an English translation, it would be fun to 
read even though there may not be any information on repeats.

> On Dec 25, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> 
> wrote:
> 
> From what I've seen it's pretty straightforward, you just need to replace the 
> upbeat at the end of the bar with the repeat sign with the anacrusis of the 
> first bar. Sometimes the note values of the anacrusis are not the same but 
> this doesn't really matter as one is making a pause before starting the piece 
> again from the beginning. The values of the last beat of the repeat bars work 
> fine when playing straight through the second time round.
> Despite Galilei's claims to the contrary, there are a few printers mistakes 
> too and there is doubtlessly an element of improvisation in the way the 
> introductory anacruses should be played anyway (as perhaps indicated, for 
> example, by the occasional long note values).
> Best,
> Matthew 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 12:51, Joachim Lüdtke <jo.lued...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> 
>> that is what I found in the introduction too, and still you have to cope 
>> with the Situation Ed describes. I tend to your No 2, Ed!
> 
> 
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