Yes--the shelf liner material works very nicely to de-grease the piggy! I actually use a footstool on the right to get the lute up a little higher (thigh under the widest point). Can't say it's improved my playing, however. Leonard Williams -----Original Message----- From: John Mardinly <john.mardi...@asu.edu> To: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>; Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap I've been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit that holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works for me now is rubberized shelf liner: [1]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_r d_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158 c5&pd_rd_wg=FAgbm&pf_rd_r=6BF0CZFPTPEJ3V0B4C0J&pd_rd_r=b4cc3dc9-fcdd-4e 91-871f-3a45b2ca6f75&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQlpFOVExWUNKOFBTJ mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNTgzMVdHTVVXMjg5QjlLUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkz MDU1NFFLQzJMQzQzRVIzJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGl yZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== Cut out a 15'x15' piece for each thigh, and use a footstool for the left leg like guitarists use. The lute is then fairly stable. Makes a guitar a bit more stable also. $5 buys enough to last a lifetime. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Classical Guitarist/Lutenist > On May 22, 2020, at 4:16 PM, howard posner <[2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > >> On May 22, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Stetson <[3]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, all. I've been playing without a strap since 1974. It is possible. > > Arthur: Ah. Look, the statue. How do get the cup bit to stay where it is, unsupported? > > Wise Old Bird: It stays there because it's artistically right. > > Arthur: What? > > WOB: The Law of Gravity isn't as indiscriminate as people often think. You learn things like that when you're a bird. > > --Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (original radio script) Fit the Tenth > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n 1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=T0D BLPWi-JsEl3u9ihtW2Cu9gVo3NkkKh4as-2CmlkM&s=7riCOmG8O7h8gdO6D70sBjwmU8mI 2u_3cw-r5nvTuEw&e=
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