Yes--the shelf liner material works very nicely to de-grease the piggy!
    I actually use a footstool on the right to get the lute up a little
   higher (thigh under the widest point).  Can't say it's improved my
   playing, however.
   Leonard Williams
   -----Original Message-----
   From: John Mardinly <john.mardi...@asu.edu>
   To: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>; Lute List
   <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
   I've been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit
   that holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works
   for me now is rubberized shelf liner:
   [1]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_r
   d_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158
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   mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNTgzMVdHTVVXMjg5QjlLUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkz
   MDU1NFFLQzJMQzQzRVIzJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGl
   yZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
   Cut out a 15'x15' piece for each thigh, and use a footstool for the
   left leg like guitarists use. The lute is then fairly stable. Makes a
   guitar a bit more stable also. $5 buys enough to last a lifetime.
   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   Classical Guitarist/Lutenist
   > On May 22, 2020, at 4:16 PM, howard posner
   <[2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
   >
   >
   >> On May 22, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Stetson
   <[3]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote:
   >>
   >>  Hi, all. I've been playing without a strap since 1974. It is
   possible.
   >
   > Arthur: Ah. Look, the statue. How do get the cup bit to stay where it
   is, unsupported?
   >
   > Wise Old Bird: It stays there because it's artistically right.
   >
   > Arthur: What?
   >
   > WOB: The Law of Gravity isn't as indiscriminate as people often
   think. You learn things like that when you're a bird.
   >
   > --Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (original radio script) Fit the
   Tenth
   >
   >
   >
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   1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=T0D
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References

   1. 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=FAgbm&pf_rd_r=6BF0CZFPTPEJ3V0B4C0J&pd_rd_r=b4cc3dc9-fcdd-4e91-871f-3a45b2ca6f75&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQlpFOVExWUNKOFBTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNTgzMVdHTVVXMjg5QjlLUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkzMDU1NFFLQzJMQzQzRVIzJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
   2. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com
   3. mailto:christophertstet...@gmail.com
   4. 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=T0DBLPWi-JsEl3u9ihtW2Cu9gVo3NkkKh4as-2CmlkM&s=7riCOmG8O7h8gdO6D70sBjwmU8mI2u_3cw-r5nvTuEw&e=

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