I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what Leonhard Williams 
just said - it reminds me (and everybody who likes to think about his/her 
playing) that the simple position we sit down and hold the instrument has quite 
an impact on our playing. As often, there is no "rule" except that everybody 
has to figure out how it's real comfortable to play. I strongly believe that 
the instrument has to sit there without any additional effort to hold it, one 
needs to figure out how that exactly can be achieved.
Good luck!




‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:45 PM, Leonard Williams 
<arc...@mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> Yes--the shelf liner material works very nicely to de-grease the piggy!
> I actually use a footstool on the right to get the lute up a little
> higher (thigh under the widest point). Can't say it's improved my
> playing, however.
> Leonard Williams
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu
> To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lute List
> lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
> I've been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit
> that holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works
> for me now is rubberized shelf liner:
> [1]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_r
> d_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158
> c5&pd_rd_wg=FAgbm&pf_rd_r=6BF0CZFPTPEJ3V0B4C0J&pd_rd_r=b4cc3dc9-fcdd-4e
> 91-871f-3a45b2ca6f75&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQlpFOVExWUNKOFBTJ
> mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNTgzMVdHTVVXMjg5QjlLUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkz
> MDU1NFFLQzJMQzQzRVIzJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGl
> yZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
> Cut out a 15'x15' piece for each thigh, and use a footstool for the
> left leg like guitarists use. The lute is then fairly stable. Makes a
> guitar a bit more stable also. $5 buys enough to last a lifetime.
> A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
> Classical Guitarist/Lutenist
>
> > On May 22, 2020, at 4:16 PM, howard posner
>
> <[2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > On May 22, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Stetson
>
> <[3]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi, all. I've been playing without a strap since 1974. It is
>
> possible.
>
> >
>
> > Arthur: Ah. Look, the statue. How do get the cup bit to stay where it
>
> is, unsupported?
>
> >
>
> > Wise Old Bird: It stays there because it's artistically right.
>
> >
>
> > Arthur: What?
>
> >
>
> > WOB: The Law of Gravity isn't as indiscriminate as people often
>
> think. You learn things like that when you're a bird.
>
> >
>
> > --Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (original radio script) Fit the
>
> Tenth
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
>
> >
>
> [4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth
> .edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n
> 1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=T0D
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>
> References
>
> 1.  
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWAPOO1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_4?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01LWAPOO1&pd_rd_w=kPNRm&pf_rd_p=48d372c1-f7e1-4b8b-9d02-4bd86f5158c5&pd_rd_wg=FAgbm&pf_rd_r=6BF0CZFPTPEJ3V0B4C0J&pd_rd_r=b4cc3dc9-fcdd-4e91-871f-3a45b2ca6f75&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyQlpFOVExWUNKOFBTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNTgzMVdHTVVXMjg5QjlLUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkzMDU1NFFLQzJMQzQzRVIzJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
> 2.  mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com
> 3.  mailto:christophertstet...@gmail.com
> 4.  
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=T0DBLPWi-JsEl3u9ihtW2Cu9gVo3NkkKh4as-2CmlkM&s=7riCOmG8O7h8gdO6D70sBjwmU8mI2u_3cw-r5nvTuEw&e=




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