On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Rainer M Krug <rai...@krugs.de> wrote: > Cyrille Artho <c.ar...@aist.go.jp> writes: > >> Liviu Andronic wrote: >>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes >>> <lasgout...@lyx.org> wrote: >>>> 22/05/2014 08:09, Cyrille Artho: >>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, Thanks for your work in keeping the packages working. I'm >>>>> still using foils (foiltex) so I'm very happy if it can be kept >>>>> working for a long time. In fact, I was not aware that it is no >>>>> longer maintained. That's too bad because I think I'm not the only >>>>> one who still uses it. >>>>> >>>>> In my personal opinion, beamer uses too many boxes and does not look >>>>> good if you use a lot of figures/images on the slides. Beamer slides >>>>> may look better for text-only slides but those slides are boring to >>>>> begin with ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I depend on foils to. I tried beamer for my last presentation >>>> (because I needed its slide animation features), but I really did not >>>> like it. Too much bling for my taste. >>>> >>> I also have issues with all the bling that comes with Beamer by >>> default, but with some few Beamer config tweaks all the bling can be >>> toned down significantly. This is why I came up with a series of >>> "simple" Beamer examples on the wiki: >>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Beamer > > I just wanted to take a look at them, and all produce an error when > opening from LyX (LyX Version 2.1.0 (13 Apr 2014)) on a Mac. > > ,---- > | > /var/folders/50/wcr5bjwn75q595n6x82gxj280000gn/T/lyx_tmpdir.twUHvMRS5559/Buffer_convertLyXFormatXXXXXX.lyx.kSameUIi5559 > | ended unexpectedly, which means that it is probably corrupted. > `---- > > I though that the conversion by lyx2lyx is the problem, but that one > works without problems. > > I attach the converted file (from [1]). > > Ironically, all non-simple beamer presentations open without > error... conspiracy? :-) > I'm not sure. Maybe it is related to the recently discovered issues in lyx2lyx with more complex Beamer documents.
Liviu > Cheers, > > Rainer > > > >>> >>> Most changes are obtained very easily via simple Beamer calls in the >>> Preamble. >>> >>> Liviu >>> >>> >>>> OTOH, I reckon that foilTeX slides can be a bit ugly, and I'd welcome >>>> another option. >>>> >>>> JMarc >>>> >> Hi Liviu, >> Thanks for the links. IMHO even the "simple" style is rather heavyweight >> for the boxes (with shadows etc.). I think the trend is now towards >> cleaner, simpler layouts with no 3 D effects, and only as few >> lines/boxes/frames/background colors as absolutely needed. >> In that sense, what was done by necessity 15 years ago when doing slides in >> LyX/TeX is now again in fashion ;-) >> >> Why FoilTeX works for me (sorry if this is getting off-topic): >> >> For my own slides, I change the bullet symbol and title color in FoilTeX >> but otherwise use it without changes. Whenever possible, I avoid bullet >> lists in the first place but of course I don't always have enough time to >> get rid of enumerations. I never use "striptease slides" as the audience >> tends to squint, trying to read the grey text on white, while not listening >> to the speaker. IMHO if you use a "striptease slide", then you have failed >> in the design and should create 2 - 3 separate (but incremental) slides >> instead. Note that these may repeat a figure (with modifications) but >> should not repeat the entire text as you'd otherwise again end up with a >> wall of text. >> >> In short, beamer can make a wall of text look relatively pretty, and >> this may work for a couple of minutes, but after that one realizes >> again that walls of text are not suitable for presentations. Without >> that, the most compelling features of beamer are not needed anymore. > > > Footnotes: > [1] http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Examples/Beamer/Liv/beamer-simple.lyx > > -- > Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, > UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) > > Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology > Stellenbosch University > South Africa > > Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 > Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 > Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 > > Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 > > email: rai...@krugs.de > > Skype: RMkrug > > PGP: 0x0F52F982 > -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
