On 2016-07-25, Guillaume Munch wrote: > Le 24/07/2016 à 16:48, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit : >> Le 22/07/2016 16:21, Guillaume Munch a écrit : >>> Le 22/07/2016 à 14:31, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit :
... >>>> What about "Export" rather than "Format"? This covers all three items in >>>> the subwindow. >>> It has the same issue as Output: "save transient properties" controls >>> the source file, rather than an output file. >> Export covers this, as it controls "Export as LyX file" in a way. >> And the dropdown menu in the LyX format submenu is the same as in >> File->Export. > I am not sure. Is there not actually an additional confusion possible > with people who might be given to think that it is only for the Export > menu and not saving? Yes. "Normal" saving of a document as LyX file is (at least for me) not export. >>> (I have a similar issue with the "source panel": it should really be >>> called "output panel". I cannot follow this argument: the "source panel" shows various output formats (TeX/HTML/LyX) in source form - (as opposed to a user agent (browser) showing HTML in a presentational form or the LyX GUI window showing the source in presentational/interactive form. >> Calling it "source" is entirely inappropriate and propagates the false >> impression that LyX intends to be a LaTeX editor.) Not really - the "source panel" provides a (pre)view for both, the native LyX format and various output formats. >> I agree with this, what about "LaTeX export panel" instead (and "LaTeX >> export as window title)? > 1. no "LaTeX" since one can access any output format Indeed: e.g. setting Format: LyXHTML and still having a panel header "LaTeX Source" is odd. > 2. either "output" or "export". Why not "source view panel"? The panel * shows the document in various formats in "raw text" / source form, * allows only viewing, no editing (unfortunately). > Actually having "Output" everywhere that we discussed would be > self-consistent since the panel proposes the LyX format too. So > "Output" would encompass the LyX files for both the "source view" and > the output options (whereas "Export" would be meant for something > distinct from saving). Because I appreciate consistency, this is now > what I am considering, unless somebody has a better idea. I still don't like the idea to summarise saving the lyx file and export under "output". > To come back to your original source of disagreement, I just noticed > that "Format" is currently used in the source panel in the same way as I > meant it, and is already translated into "Format" in French (but your > problem was more a collision with « Format local » maybe). IMV, the use of "Format" in the source pane is correct and unambiguous. Günter
