On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, James Sinnamon wrote:

Hello James,

Sorry I didn't get around to answering you yet.  I did see your private
mail just before I went home yesterday but also saw an answer from Herbert
which I thought would probably set you straight -- Herbert is our resident
LaTeX guru.

> Dear Herbert, Herbert Voss
>
> (Firstly, my apologies if you receive two copies of this.)
>
> Thank you again for the help, the clarifiication, and the additional
> information.
>
> I was able to obtain the foiltex.dvi file., however I was still
> not able to achieve what I had set out to do.
>
> There seems to be some piece of information lacking which
> may have seemed too obvious to be worth stating.
>
> I will explain what I wish to do:
>
> 1. I am typing out a FoilTeX presentation.   I enter the following as
>  a shortrotatefolihead
>
>     Overview of Interacting Process
>
> 2. I then go on to enter the following as bulleted list with a hierarchy
>
> implied by the parenthesized numbers:
>
> (0) Coordination: Movie Production Analogy
>     (1) Movies and required role
>     (1) Actors suited to particular roles
>     (1)Scheduling of the production of movies
> (0)The Interacting Processes (IP) language
>     (1)Problems with IP language
>     (1)Extensions to IP
> (0)Implementation of IP with the Java
>     (1) Implementation issues
>         (2) Distribution of processes amongst hosts
>             (3) One process per host?; or
>             (3) One to several process per host
>         (2) Communications issues
>             (3) Use of RMI stubs
>             (3) Use sockets?
>
> ... and so on.
>
> I have read the documentation, but something fundamental escapes
> me.  What do I physigally type to make the above happen?
>
> Do I need to edit the .lyx file with a text editor?
> Do I change to LaTeX input mode and then enter something, and,
> if so , what?
>
> \begin_deeper ....\end_deeper ?
>
> [\(\bullet\)]?
>
> Do I use the itemized environment, the standard environment, or
> something else in order to do this.

Select "Itemize" from the style menu.
Start typing the first entry.
Press enter and type the next line.
At any stage while entering the second line you can change the environment
depth using the "Change Environment Depth" toolbar button -- it has two
small arrows pointing left and right.  On a standard installation that
button is just to the left of the "TeX" button.

On my system I use the xemacs key bindings which has the tab key
configured to do the same thing.  I'm not sure if the CUA bindings
(default) have a similar setting.

Anyway, when in the list environments like itemize, enumerate etc.
pressing enter gets you another list paragraph at depth 0.  If you press
M-Return (that is, Alt-Return for most keyboards) you get an list
paragraph with the same depth as the line you were just entering.  All
this is explained (or should be) in the User Guide under lists or
something similar.

Now at some stage you'll want to change the actual bullet points and this
is done by opening the menu:
        Layout->Document

pressing the "Bullet Shapes" button (about the centre right of the
dialog).  Then you set the bullet points for each depth -- click the
button on the top for the depth you want to change -- 1 through 4 -- then
find a suitable bullet point from the 216 available.  When you have
finished choosing press Ok (or Apply in case you want to play some more).

> I have read through all of the FoilTeX documents I coud find. I have
> looked
> at the sampfoil.tex/sampfoil.lyx, but find myself unable to replicate
> the effect (that is unless I were to go back to editing LaTeX
> source files with a text editor.)
>
> What I am asking  for, if you or anyone has the time,  are clear step by
>
> step intructions as to how to accomplish
> a bulleted itemised list  with a hierarchy similar to what is shown
> above.
>
> I would feel much obliged if you or anyone else  out there could help.
>
> Thank you again,
>
> James Sinnamon.
>
> Re: hierarchies of itemized lists in FoilTeX
> From: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: James Sinnamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:53:40 +0000
>
>
> James Sinnamon wrote:
> >
> > Dea LyX users/developers,
> >
> > Can any one help me with the follwing questions:
> >
> > 1. Where are these documents?
> > -=---------------------------
> > Can you tell me where I can find a copy of
> > texmf/texmf/doc/latex/foiltex/foiltex.dvi
>
>
> download the two files foiltex.dtx and foiltex.ins from
>
> ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/nonfree/macros/latex/contrib/supported/foiltex/
>
> put them in a dir, which latex finds and than run latex foiltex.ins
> and twice latex foiltex.dtx, which builds the file foiltex.dvi.
>
> > 2. hierarchies of itemized lists in FoilTeX
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > I am unclear, how this is achieved? Is
> > there a menu item?  does it need a press of a key combination? or does
> one
> > enter
> > some Latex code?  (in PowerPoint one uses Tab and Shif-Tab for this.
> How is
> > the same
> > achieved with LyX/FoilTeX?)
>
>
> with the above files comes a sample texfile for usinf foils. run latex
> on this tex-file and have a look at the dvi output which is agood
> introduction
> to foiltex and especially on page 2 the itemize environment.
>
> Herbert
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>

Allan. (ARRae)

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