does lyx run on mac os9? word does ...
martin On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:27:28PM +0200, Miki Dovrat wrote: > My suggestion: > > Go personally and install lyx by yourself on your boss's/co-author's > computer, make sure everything works by yourself. > > Now spend 5 minutes with him on basic editing in lyx, and hope for the best. > > Is that feasable? > > "Martin A. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >i am currently writing a paper (in lyx of couse) and my coauthor wanted > > the manuscript for editing. now, he uses word and only word. therefore i > > am forced to use some two-step method in order to generate a .rtf > > document he can open. at this point the 50 or so citation references > > have gone fubar. after my coauthor has finished editing the manuscript > > he will return it in .doc or .rtf format and i am going to either locate > > the changes he made and copy/paste those to my version of the manuscript > > - or reformat the entire manuscript again with lyx (includin the 50 > > citation refs). > > > > if that is not horrible, i dont want to know what horrible is! > > > > > > > > martin > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 02:26:59PM -0700, Jack M. Lyon wrote: > >> > cons: > >> > ===== > >> > > >> > * lyx/word exchange is horrible > >> > >> That depends. There are lots of ways to get a LaTeX file out of a Word > >> document (got to use Word paragraph styles, though): > >> > >> http://www.tug.org/utilities/texconv/pc2txtbl.html > >> > >> Then use TeX2LyX or reLyX to bring the file into LyX. > >> > >> Also worth investigating would be saving a Word document as filtered HTML > >> or > >> as XML and then using an HTML2LaTeX or XML2LaTeX converter, which you can > >> find on Google. > >> > >> And if you export a LyX document as HTML, you can open the HTML document > >> into Word. > >> > >> It's certainly not a perfect round-trip, but it's not bad, either. And > >> I'm > >> not taking math into account. :) > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> Jack M. Lyon > >> ___________________________________________________ > >> > >> The EDITORIUM > >> Microsoft Word Add-Ins for Publishing Professionals > >> http://www.editorium.com > >> ___________________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Martin A. Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:09 PM > >> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > >> > Subject: selling lyx part 2 > >> > > >> > > >> > hello again > >> > > >> > > >> > thank you very much for the input. > >> > > >> > apparently noone have any slideshow presentations introducing > >> > lyx to the ignorant word user. > >> > > >> > i hereby suggest we make one - and perhaps even include it in > >> > the documentation on lyx.org? > >> > > >> > but first i will summon up the pro/con input from the mailing list: > >> > > >> > > >> > pros: > >> > ===== > >> > > >> > * easy to use and stable > >> > > >> > * free > >> > > >> > * well written and intelligent docs > >> > > >> > * focus on content instead of layout > >> > > >> > * the printed output is truely typeset giving nicer output > >> > > >> > * table of contents, lists, etc are automatic (with no errors > >> > like word) > >> > > >> > * superb bibliographies using bibtex > >> > > >> > * cross references are awesome > >> > > >> > * cross references (and citition dito) are automatically > >> > numbered and maintained > >> > > >> > * departmental/group standard documents gets lean > >> > > >> > * math equations are handled professionally > >> > > >> > * journals may provide latex classes of thier own > >> > > >> > * it is possible to make pdf files with pdflatex > >> > > >> > * uses a text file format allowing for easy and full back > >> > compatibility > >> > > >> > * encourages structured thinking with putting in the section > >> > and subsection when one starts writing > >> > > >> > * tables and graphics within tables is possible > >> > > >> > * minitoc is a nice feature > >> > > >> > * great at placement of figures etc. no orphans. > >> > > >> > * figure placement are superior and true to typesetting > >> > > >> > > >> > cons: > >> > ===== > >> > > >> > * lyx/word exchange is horrible > >> > > >> > * the word position in the printed doc is not the same as on > >> > the screen > >> > > >> > * a longer learning curve once you need to move beyond the basics > >> > > >> > * you will hit very quickly the ceiling of lyx and have your > >> > documents full of ERT > >> > > >> > * latex is hard to debug. error messages are usually quite > >> > meaningless > >> > > >> > * lyx on windows is still a bit of a challenge > >> > > >> > * not very many people uses lyx. you need to bring your own > >> > laptop with lyx always. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > did i miss anything important in the above? > >> > > >> > is it not a strong argument that the entire body of > >> > litterature within the sciences is typeset with latex? (is this true?) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > now for the layout of the slideshow (first the > >> > thinking/brainstorming part - your help is ugently needed!). > >> > > >> > i will suggest something around 20 slides and if possible > >> > examplify all of the above pros. and of couse, one > >> > should also mention the cons ... > >> > > >> > > >> > 1 cover slide > >> > > >> > 1 slide with introduction > >> > > >> > 1 slide with tex/latex/lyx history and use > >> > > >> > some slides giving a graphical tour just like on lyx.org > >> > > >> > a couple of slides showing how to insert citation references > >> > (this really seem to win peoples hearts) > >> > > >> > a couple of slides on how to install lyx > >> > > >> > 1 final slide with pros and cons > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > suggestions to the composition of this slideshow is welcome - > >> > and if anyone have ideas to any particular slide, dont hesitate. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > best regards > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > martin > >> > > > > >
