Bernhard Roider wrote:
Helge Hafting wrote:
Bernhard Roider wrote:
Paul Smith wrote:
On 9/14/06, Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > There is something that may be relevant: it is possible to
convert
>> >> > from SVG to Xfig format with pstoedit. With this approach, we
>> can then
>> >> > edit the Xfig picture and edit the text with the special
flag on,
>> >> > getting at last the text of the picture written with the
default
>> LaTeX
>> >> > font of the document.
>> >> >
>> >> I've tried to draw with xfig two or three times, and in my
>> oppinion the
>> >> user interface is realy awful! inkscape has a really feature
rich
>> >> interface and i can draw images there very quickly.
inkscape runs on
>> >> windows and unix systems - what about xfig? moreover, i do not
>> like to
>> >> add plain LaTeX to my images (which is done with those special
>> flags if
>> >> i got that right). why not support psfrag in lyx? as i wrote in
>> the tips
>> >> wiki, i use it now with ERTs. The big advantage would be,
that i can
>> >> write everything i want to typeset with LaTeX into the
picture can be
>> >> written with LyX.
>> >
>> > I share your opinion regarding Xfig. However, I think that
the best
>> > way to insert SVG pictures in LyX is through Xfig together with
>> > pstoedit. You will not really need to edit your Xfig picture
with
>> > Xfig, as a simple text editor is able to change (almost at
once) all
>> > needed special flags. Doing so, there is no need for using
psfrag.
>> > However, if you feel comfortable with your way, just use it,
as I am
>> > not campaigning for using my solution!
>> as i never tried your way i cannot really decide whats better.
is it
>> possible to typeset e.g. formulas within LyX and place them in the
>> images that way?
>
> No, but you can open your Xfig file with a text editor, and then
you
> just replace, e.g., 'x' with '$x^2$' to get a math mode squared x.
> Alternatively, you can insert '$x^2$' directly in Inkscape, when
you
> are drawing your picture. That is simple, I think.
>
Yes, but i don't want to typeset such (often much more complex)
formulas
by myself if i have such a great tool like lyx that supports me.
If you have such a great tool, just use it.... :-)
To be precise, when you copy a formula from LyX to a text editor, the
latex code of the formula is pasted. And from a text editor, you can
copy the code of your formula into Inkscape.
Ah, i didn't know that copy/paste stuff works with lyx. it didn't in
1.3.x, did it? it's an option, but still i would prefer having all
of the latex typesetting in a single file (or file type if i split a
large document into several smaller parts). Managing formulas in
images to match the ones in the main document is always more work i
think.
Sure, but:
Lyx knows nothing about inkscape, and won't ever know any more than
"how to turn it into .eps or .pdf for inclusion".
as i mentioned earlier i use psfrag for that purpose. that way i write
the formulas in lyx and latex replaces them in the image (the only
drawback is that u must use dvips, but i always do that). the thing
that i miss here is some support from lyx such that i don't always
have to insert ERTs
I inserting ERTs is all you have to do - consider making an "external inset"
for inkscape. That is how the xfig support is implemented. The text
file external_templates
(in .lyx or /usr/share/lyx or /usr/local/share/lyx) contains the
necessary latex
code to be inserted when the user inserts a xfig file, as well as what
commands
to run in order to convert .fig into .eps.
Have a look at it, perhaps you can add something similiar for Inkscape?
Feel free to ask more if that file is hard to understand.
(psfrags calling syntax is no really standard latex. and even if it
was i think u can only write layouts with paragraph styles that are
translated to latex commands but not something like an inlined latex
command - which would be nice in my opinion).
Uh, ERT *is* an inlined latex command?
by the way: does lyx support writing latex code in another window but
the main window? would it be difficult to make a dialog window with an
input field in which the user can write formulas?
The easy way here is to simply start up another lyx that you only use
for formulas.
You can make that other lyx windows small like a dialog if you like.
Helge Hafting
