I have some 10+ Model Ts, 100, 102 ,200 ,O.M-10 ,N.8201. But so far, I have 
never changed the NiCd (?) battery in any of my machines.

Now, should I be worried? Most of the machines I have are simply in storage. 
(cold & dry) Typically, I launch 1 or 2 machines (always the same ones) maybe 
once every 2-3 months. So, they don't get much usage.

How can I tell that the backup-battery is going on the machines that I use?
And those I don't use, are they safe?

The caps that can replace the batteries, are they indistructible, or will they 
leak, explode, desintegrate, ... too ?

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> Would this be suitable for a model 100?
> https://vetco.net/products/super-capacitor-100000-956-f-5-5-
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The primary problem with this one is the lead spacing is too close - it's 5mm 
but the original battery is about 3/4 of an inch long with the pins at each end 
(approximately 19mm, although I haven't precisely measured the hole spacing on 
the PCB).  If the cap had longer leads or if the spacing were close to 19mm you 
could bend them to fit.

It would be really handy to find a cap in this form factor which would just 
drop into the existing holes, although the diameter might be too large for the 
available space on the PCB.  The one I used (on Kurt's recommendation - 
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/5Pcs-Lot-5-4V-1-5F-1-5Farad-Super-Capacitor-Supercapacitor-Ultracapacitor-EDLC/262404152018?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)
 had long leads which I just bent as needed to fit the holes.  In my M100 I 
laid it on its side on top of some other components to the right; in my T200 
there was enough free space above it to let it stand vertically in the same 
spot where the original battery was.

I'm not sure if there are any other electrical considerations, but afaik a cap 
this size ought to work... expect shorter memory/RTC retention times than we've 
seen with a larger cap, but I'd expect at least 30-60 minutes in an M100 and 
maybe 15+ minutes in a T200 (these are wild off-the-top-of-my-head estimates 
based on what I've seen in my own machines with a 1.5F cap).  The upside of a 
smaller cap would be a shorter charge time, which can be kind of a pain in the 
T200 when starting it up with zero charge in the cap.

I guess the ideal supercap for easy fitment would be something with axial 
leads, maybe 15mm or less in length, or one in the same form factor I used but 
not quite as tall.







        jim
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