FYI If you just want to have updatable Content using jboss with jboss tools 
server adapter allows updates without a restart since we deploy exploded by 
default.

Not sure it fits your needs but from your description it sounds like it. 

/max (sent from my phone)


> On 27/06/2013, at 21.27, Fred Bricon <fbri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know of any other server adapter allowing the equivalent of "serve 
> modules without" publishing (maybe IBM has some for their websphere liberty 
> thing)
> When not using that feature, changed resources from overlay projects (in the 
> workspace) are supposed to be published to tomcat automatically, I demoed 
> that during last EclipseCon Europe. If you can provide a use case / sample 
> project to bugzilla, I could probably be of more help.
> 
> Another alternative is to try sonatype webby[1], which has very good overlay 
> support, but unfortunately, it can't be used along m2e-wtp, hence Java EE 
> Kepler. You would have to start from a Java Classic distro and install WTP 
> over, if you need its tooling.
> 
> [1] 
> https://docs.sonatype.org/display/M2ECLIPSE/Integration+with+Maven+WAR+Plugin
> 
> 
> 2013/6/27 Alexandre Palma <alexandre.pa...@gmail.com>
>> Hi Fred,
>> Thanks for answering in such short notice and for the much valuable 
>> explanations! Now I can see it was really naive of me to think that could 
>> have found a simple solution that would work on everyone's favor. 
>> It never occurred that maybe it could be a container specific problem, and 
>> indeed I have only tried to get it to work with Tomcat. If you know of any 
>> other containers that support overlay components properly, could you please 
>> tell me which ones? If that would solve our problem, I believe we could have 
>> Tomcat replaced.
>> 
>> There's yet another thing that could solve our problem: We only need to use 
>> the "serve modules without publishing" feature because we have resources in 
>> multi-module projects which we need to be able to edit without having to 
>> restart the application to have the changes applied. If you know of any way 
>> to achieve this without having to use the "serve modules without publishing" 
>> feature, I would be very grateful if you could tell me.
>> 
>> I'm no longer sure whether attaching the patch to the git repository would 
>> be useful. I'll probably have it figured out after running tests with 
>> different containers.
>> Again, thank you very much for your answer and please excuse me for making 
>> questions which are not only about m2e-wtp.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Alexandre
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Fred Bricon <fbri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alexandre,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the patch but please open feature requests over at 
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=M2E-WTP and attach 
>>> patches using the git format 
>>> (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jetty/Contributor/Contributing_Patches#Git_Format_Patch).
>>>  You might also need to signe Eclipse's 
>>> CLA(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/Contributing_via_Git) I 
>>> know I need to put up some contribution guide somewhere but I'm kinda 
>>> swamped right now. 
>>> 
>>> Now the technicalities are out of the way, about the actual solution you 
>>> propose : 
>>> - first of all, unzip is done only once, unless the source zip changed, in 
>>> that case it's unzipped again. so there's no performance overhead here
>>> - performance overhead could occur while scanning the unzipped folder to 
>>> determine what's to be published, I grant you that :-)
>>> - now if we serve these unzipped folders directly, we lose 
>>> maven-war-plugin's inclusion/exclusion mechanism. It may be a problem for 
>>> some.
>>> - I'm aware of some issues with Tomcat's "serve without publishing" 
>>> feature, which doesn't support the overlay components for some reason. 
>>> - In any case I don't believe naively serving the unzipped folders is the 
>>> *proper* solution. I may revisit my opinion but I need to spend more time 
>>> investigating the issue (and please attach a proper patch so I can review 
>>> the diffs). 
>>> The whole overlay support in m2e-wtp is rather experimental. so things 
>>> could be handled completely differently in the future. I'm not excluding 
>>> anything just yet.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to spend some quality time with 
>>> your problem before at least mid-august. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Fred Bricon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/6/27 Alexandre Palma <alexandre.pa...@gmail.com>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> My name is Alexandre Palma. I work in the R&D team of company which 
>>>> produces web-based solutions for the financial market.
>>>> We have recently started to adapt our java project's structures to use 
>>>> Maven, and we have also adhered to m2e and m2e-wtp, from which we greatly 
>>>> benefit, and they have become vital tools in our development process. 
>>>> We have, though, a little problem with the way m2e-wtp handles overlays, 
>>>> which I've been bypassing by making a little modification to it's source 
>>>> code and building in-house versions of it to fit our need, which I believe 
>>>> may be the need of other developers as well.
>>>> 
>>>> What happens is that we need our modules to be served without being 
>>>> published, and the zip files m2e-wtp attaches to the deployment assembly 
>>>> cannot be deployed in this way. But I noticed that m2e-wtp already 
>>>> extracts the overlays zip files to the directory 
>>>> "target\m2e-wtp\overlays", and if those directories be attached to the 
>>>> deployment assembly instead of the zip files it works both ways, 
>>>> publishing and not publishing modules.
>>>> 
>>>> The modification I made is in the org.eclipse.m2e.wtp.OverlayConfigurator 
>>>> class (which is attached in this message) is to attach those directories 
>>>> to the deployment assembly. It was certainly not done in the best possible 
>>>> way, given my little understanding of m2e-wtp's architecture and the 
>>>> eclipse API itself, but I hope it'll at least help to illustrate what is 
>>>> being proposed.
>>>> 
>>>> It'd be greatly appreciated if a change to attach directories instead of 
>>>> zip files could be incorporated to m2e-wtp. I believe it would have no 
>>>> impact the way it works and it would also  improve performance, since it 
>>>> would not have to extract zip files every time the application is 
>>>> published.
>>>> 
>>>> I apologize for my poor English and hope that you could understand what I 
>>>> tried to explain. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards and thanks in advance,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>> 
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