actually yes there is.  unfortunitly it don't work with MA very well at all. I 
should say that under ICS it don't work well with MA.  now under gingerbread, 
maybe it does, I don't know.  anyway, there is eyes-free keyboard.  this has 
three modes. hidden, wich means you are not using it at all, navigating, wich 
is a virtual d-pad, you swipe up to do an up errow, down to do a down errow, 
left for left, and right for right, and tap the center to semulate the select 
button.  and there is the typing mode.  I use this with talkback in ICS very 
well, and it makes things sometimes easier.  sadly under ICS when you switch 
modes under MA, it just says dot, dot, dot, dot. and when you are in typing 
mode, as you move across the letters, you just hear dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, 
dot. again, not sure what it does under gengerbread, as I don't have a 
gengerbread phone anymore.

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 

From: ma_mailing-boun...@codefactory.cat 
[mailto:ma_mailing-boun...@codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Danielle
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:02 PM
To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
Subject: RE: [MA] ICS, MA and TB

 

Is the D Pad the arrow thing? I hate trying to use MA's virtual keyboard. Is 
there another option for a virtual keyboard?

Jarrod Jicha <jamminje...@jjhof.com> wrote:

this is why several of us would like to see a virtual d-pad.  we know they


don't work in menus, however when this happens, touch exploration works


nicely.  I would honestly love to be able to use MA again as I love there


voice typing. it is easy to use.  however, until  CF actually starts


listening to us, and acutally putting a d-pad in theere screen reader it is


useless. ferthermore, the scienence speach with the prosimity sensor doesn't


work outside of the MA suite of programs in ICS too. if you don't believe


me? go listen to podcast 11 on my ICS page located at


www.jjhof.com/android/ics and you will see what i mean.











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[mailto:ma_mailing-boun...@codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Chris Miller


Sent: Thursday, Ma
 y 24,
2012 5:33 PM


To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List


Subject: Re: [MA] ICS, MA and TB





I don't see any advantage of using MA with ICS.  I used it with gingerbread 


and rather liked it.  With ICS, touch by explore does most things, but every





now and then it is good to have a Dpad in place.  MA keyboard doesn't have 


that feature, and MA and Eyes-free keyboard don't play nice with each other.





-----Original Message----- 


From: andr...@smartphone.my


Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:24 PM


To: j...@jedbarton.com ; Mobile Accessibility Android Users List


Subject: [MA] ICS, MA and TB





hi all,





sorry if this has been discuss several time on the list, perhaps i miss 


those post. anyway, can anyone tell what are the advantage


of MA over TB on ICS?





i am currently using samsung galaxy nexus, how to use TB or MA to read the 


system notification tray?








Than
 ks for
your advice.








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Allan WKF





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