Talkback already comes with droid, correct? Thanks, and looking
forward to your podcast.

On 10/24/12, Jarrod Jicha <[email protected]> wrote:
> I will tell you what I will work on today for you.
>
> I will record a podcast that might be a bit long, but I will purposely
> install MA on my Kyocera Hydro that is running ICS.  I will show you some
> of
> the problems I run into on a day to day basus with it, and why you wouldn't
> wan tto use it under ICS.  I will then turn it off, and show you two
> programs, spiel, and talkback, wich work under ICS.  If you are going
> jellybean, pay more attention to talkback, as spiel don't work under
> jellybean yet for what I have heard.  This will show everyone the
> differences between the three screen readers under ICS.
>
> Give me a couple hours to throw something together.  It won't be
> profetionally done, but you will get the point, and maybe, just maybe, CF
> will download this file, and see how under ICS, MA is a joke!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:45 AM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
>
> So since I don't need MA with ICS, are there any other aps I need to
> download to make things more accessible?
>
> On 10/24/12, Jarrod Jicha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Again, you don't need MA with ICS. It is a total waist of time in ICS,
>> and I really wish that CF would actually listen to there customewrs
>> for a change!
>> Braille mode? Big deal! Who cairs!  Come on! Why not make something
>> that is, oh, I don't know, how about usefull, like a virtual d-pad in
>> there keyboard,
>> like the eyes-free keyboard has? As most of us   know we can't use MA
>> with
>> the eyes free keyboard at all! And in ICS sometimes there are times,
>> when using the d-pad in eyes free keyboard is a bit easier. But if you
>> are using MA, you can forget it! You can't even type with the
>> eyes-free keyboard if you use MA as your screen reader. You just hear
>> blank blank blank blank
>>
>>
>>
>> Lets also talk about the proximity sensor!  It don't work outside of
>> the MA apps in ICS.  I have tried it on two phones that have ICS, and
>> when you are outside of MA's apps, the proximity sensor doesn't stop the
> speech at all!
>>
>>
>>
>> I could go on and on, but I bet you have all heard, and seen enough.
>> Personally? I would love to use MA again because I love the voice.
>> But until CF actually takes some time, and puts some effort into MA
>> for ICS and higher, I guess I can kiss that 100 goodbye!
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:12 AM
>> To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'
>> Subject: RE: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you. One other question, the phone is not upgradable to jb yet,
>> but it is upgradable to icecream sandwitch. Will I need mobile
>> accessibility with icecream sandwitch?
>>
>>
>>
>> Omar Binno
>>
>> Website: www.bigoproductions.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Miller
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:23 PM
>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Subject: Re: [MA] jellybean and screen reader
>>
>> With Jelly Bean, there is no need for Mobile Accessibility.  Talkback
>> or Spiel will fill your needs.
>>
>>
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