Now that I think about it, I should slightly modify what I previously wrote. I did let the Verizon store transfer my number over from my previous phone, but did not let them transfer the contacts. I was able to start voiceover myself after that. I don't think transfering the number causes this to not work as expected. I think service activation is separate from the rest of iOS setup. However, you probably have to answer the other setup questions, such as language, etc before you can transfer contacts. The issue probably occurs somewhere during this process. I guess the rule of thumb is to only let them activate your number, but not do anything beyond that.
On Nov 6, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Matthew, I think that you can have VoiceOver start talking out of the box with iPhone 4 or 4s loaded with iOS 5, provided that the Apple Store folks don't start the setup process first. There were some earlier list posts about this. In this case, since this was a brand new iPhone whose number was being transferred over from an existing (other) cell phone number for a user who had never had a previous iOS device, we just let them make the transfer setup. If that's the case, then you have to ask the Apple Store people to start up VoiceOver. He was also having the Apple Store people do a sync transfer of contacts from the old phone. I asked whether he wanted me to try to handle this with iSync on his MacBook Air beforehand, but he said no. iSync can let you sync and transfer contact and calendar information from a large variety of mobile devices, either directly supported or, for more modern phones, via a plugin that you can download for the application. The iSync application still works under Lion, but it gets wiped out by the Lion installation, so you have to either have a Time Machine backup or a copy of iSync saved from Snow Leopard (or earlier) to copy back into Lion's Application folder. If you power up the new iPhone with iOS 5 it should talk out of the box, according to my understanding. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:03, Matthew Chao wrote: > Hi, Esther. I thought that with the new iOS 5 and/or the iPhone 4s, you > could walk into a store and make the iPhone talk out of the box without > sighted hewlp. Also, thought I heard that in short, you could make the > iPhone talk immediately like you could any Mac. Thought you didn't meed a > computer to get the phone talking. Just my thoughts and query. In other > words, we still can't make the iPhone talk without sighted help or a computer? > > Matthew Chao > > At 01:47 PM 11/6/2011, you wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> >> If they activate the iPhone at the Apple Store for you, then the iPhone 4s >> doesn't automatically speak when you triple click the Home button. I was >> with a friend who was getting a new iPhone 4s (his first iOS device, >> although he recently got a MacBook Air as his first Apple computer), and >> they set it up by transferring his old phone number to the device. If you >> do that, VoiceOver won't automatically come up when you triple click Home, >> since I tried it. I know that's not quite what you're asking, but thought I >> would give this information. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Nov 6, 2011, at 08:31, Matthew Chao wrote: >> >>> Hi, Folks! Just a question about getting VO to immediately talk on an >>> iPhone 4 or 4s: when the iPhone (either one) has iOS 5 installed, can it >>> be made to talk right out of the box without a comptuter, and if so, how? >>> I tried this on a friend's iPhone 4S by pressing the Home button three >>> times in rapid succession, but nothing happened. Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Matthew Chao >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
