Hi Tracy,

Obtaining the micro sim is no problem whatsoever.  You can either go into the 
o2 store and just get one, or indeed you can get kits that cut down the 
existing one.  I'd avoid this latter option personally, as sometimes those 
cut-down sims are problematic.  It may take a few minutes to switch your number 
to the new sim, but that's the only tricky bit.

Dónal
On 16 Nov 2011, at 20:28, Tracy Thompson wrote:

> Hello Geoff
> 
> I wouldn't be buying from the carrier; it would be SIM-free and unlocked. We 
> could apparently get a micro-SIM from O2 but I don't know how easy that would 
> be. Thank you for your reply and interesting comment.
> 
> Tracy Thompson
> 
> On 16 Nov 2011, at 20:00, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracy,
> 
> Depending on your scenario you may not need a sim cutter.  I recently 
> upgraded from a 3GS to a 4S using the same carrier (AT&T here in the US) and 
> the microsim card was apparently coded to my phone number and installed in 
> China.  From your price quotes, however you may be in the market for unlocked 
> devices with no commitment -- or perhaps the prices are much higher in the UK?
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Thompson" 
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> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 4S; is it really worthwhile?
> 
> 
> Hello Bubba, this is Tracy.
> 
> Thank you for your perspective on this it is an interesting one. Actually 
> though I am visually abled as Lynne calls it, sighted as a lot of others do. 
> But accessibility and compatibility do come into this because I'd be buying 2 
> phones for Gordon and myself. I want my own phone to be compatible with their 
> systems and everything they use here is Apple and that includes the servers 
> that power this list and everything else here.
> 
> The Android phones seem to vary a lot but I've been doing some reading and it 
> would seem that most of them don't contain any accessible features out of the 
> box. So I've opted not to go that road because of reasons above.
> 
> It is now just a choice between Symbian (for me) and iPhone for Gordon, or 
> iPhone for both of us. It's looking more likely to be iPhone for us both 
> which would be 16G for me and 64G for Gordon.
> 
> The only thing that annoys me regarding the iPhone is that you don't get any 
> kind of case or other things with it. You have to pay top prices for those as 
> well so it is going to work out expensive. So we'll see how we go. Again 
> thank you for the info regarding the SIM cutter which I didn't know exists.
> 
> Tracy Thompson
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 Nov 2011, at 16:52, Bubba wrote:
> 
> This is not a problem with the simm card as you can get a cutter to cut his
> card down to fit the new iPhone and also a adapter to make a micro simm fit
> in place of a regular simm . As for which phone to get if you are a seeing
> person I guess this would be preface as accessibility does not come into
> play. I am a big iPhone fan but this is because of the accessibility factor!
> If you Google for simm cutter and adapter you will find them just about
> everywhere. I think they are about 10 to 25 bucks for a set . So back to
> which phone to get if blind or with other handicap I would say the iPhone is
> the only way to go when accessibility comes into play as of now. If
> Accessibility does not come into play then it is a matter of budget and not
> wanting to be locked to apple app approval! If I was going to buy a iPhone
> right now I would not even think of buying anything but the 4s! But this is
> my JMO! HTH
> 
> 
> Sign,
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:40 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: iPhone 4S; is it really worthwhile?
> 
> Hello group
> 
> I hope you don't mind me posting this here as I'm not blind or visually
> impaired. Lynne and Gordon have told me that the list is not only for the
> visually impaired so I thought I would post.
> 
> I currently have a Samsung Symbian phone, (so I'm told), and it's dying
> rapidly. I've had this phone for about 2 years and it's been dropped several
> times.
> 
> Anyway, I am seriously considering moving over to the Apple phone because
> I've seen Gordon and Lynne's phone and seen it in use. It's only a 3GS which
> brings me to my next question. I'm contemplating buying 1 for myself and
> also 1 for Gordon as a Christmas present. But I am told that the iPhone 4S
> doesn't use the same SIM card as the 3GS does. I gather it is meant for a
> micro-SIM.
> 
> So how difficult would it be to get hold of a new SIM without changing the
> phone number on Gordon's 3GS? I know a lot of you are outside of the UK and
> things are different. When I worked in Sydney and New York for a while the
> environments were very different. But that's another discussion for a
> different place. What I nee is an objective view as to whether this would be
> a good buy or whether I should just look at something else. Yes I have
> looked at a few Android phones and yes some of them look quite attractive.
> But as I live with Gordon and lynne I really want compatibility with what
> they use so that they can share things with me and visa versa.
> 
> I'm looking at the 64G version of iPhone 4S which costs £699.00 from the
> Apple Store and about £800 Pounds from other places. Any constructive
> comment is very welcome, with thanks.
> 
> Tracy Thompson
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