Hi, I have my mail set to classic view. - Laurie --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Lovette Yewchan <lyewc...@telus.net> wrote:
> From: Lovette Yewchan <lyewc...@telus.net> > Subject: Re: Apple Mail on a Mac Concerning Message List > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 6:01 PM > Lori just wondering what settings you > have because I use to access mail this way and no longer > can. > Thanks. > Lovette > > On 2012-01-28, at 2:39 PM, Laurie Mehta wrote: > > > Hi, > > Please know that I am very new to using my Mac and mail > on it. But, here's what I am doing to read my mail. > > > > I open the mail program and simply use the arrow keys > to move through the mailboxes (actually, I often use a > letter key to skip directly to a mailbox pressing the letter > that is the first letter in that box's name). > > I also use just the arrow keys to move up and down the > list of messages, hitting return to open a message. > > I use delete to delete a message either before or after > opening it. > > > > The only time that I am using the VO keys to navigate > within mail is to move left or right from column to column > (from mailbox to the list of messages in it, for example). > In that case, I use VO plus either right or left arrow. > > > > Using this method, I'm able to hear the indication of > unread, you replied to this message, etc. for each message > in the list for a mailbox. > > > > I tried out this method inspired by the advice of a > friend who suggested that sometimes using Apple keyboard > commands is easier than using specific VO commands. > > > > I hope that this is helpful, but I look forward to > hearing from others who know more than I do about this. :-) > > > > > One thing that I have wondered is if there is a quick > way to go from the bottom of a list of messages back up to > the top? > > > > Thanks, > > Laurie M. (and, thank you, list owners, for this great > list) > > > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > I just figured out what is going on. If I turn > VoiceOver curser tracking off with VO+Shift+F3, I can then > move up and down the list and if any unread messages are > present, I will then hear the "Unread" spoken. I'm > convinced now that Mail marks the currently select message > as read even before we Jump to it with VO+j key. Still > learning how to get the most of these Mac apps. > Another example of these flags is when you reply to someone, > the "Replied" flag shows up and that doesn't go away when > scrolling down the list. These images must have been > pre-labeled for use with VoiceOver. > > > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > > >> The image is the unread thing except it won't > say it. it will just be there and be gone. in threaded and > unthreaded convos. > >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks for the quick reply. I don't quite > catch what you mean by the image. When I come into the > message list, I never hear "Unread" for any single > unthreaded messages. Is this possibly caused by Mail > marking the thing as Unread as soon as it is selected by > highlighting on the list? I really like being to identify > read and unread messages while scrolling up and down the > list like in other mailers. > >>> > >>> Thanks again for the help to this Mac newbie. > >>> > >>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Sarah Alawami > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Nope. because when the image goes away I > know it's been read. > >>>> > >>>> Take care. > >>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Steve Holmes > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> When interacting with the list of > messages in a given mail box, I can't tell when they are > read or unread. I hear "Unread" on collapsed threads > but nothing on any other expanded or unthreaded > subjects. 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