Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,

I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to 
include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page 
like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of 
the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c 
a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then 
quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links.  If I'm 
looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. 
 By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the 
match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection.  
Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element.  If there's a 
link or button that you're trying to activate you 
 still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing 
again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find 
things.

Geoff, in what regards do feel item chooser's functionality has been abated in 
Lion?  Also, which web item rotor settings do people find most helpful to 
use/add?  (From the experience on the iPhone, surprisingly, images are very 
useful for navigation on the iOS screens).

Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
> functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
> quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Kristeen Hughes 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
>  Subject: Re: Safari questions
> 
> 
>  Thank you. It helped a lot.
> 
>  Kristeen
> 
>  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:
> 
>> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
>> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
>> third press by phonetic spelling.
>> 
>> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
>> vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> 
>>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
>>> is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If 
>>> it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it 
>>> over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar 
>>> itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the 
>>> other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply 
>>> because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will 
>>> put up with navigating instead.
>> 

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