I have mine going into local boxes actually.  Otherwise the gmail server is 
more likely to fill up it's just sub decided thats all, so they go into local 
boxes created in the "on my Mac" category.  Then anything important I save also 
as a document.  Have a fold for mails such as that and added it to sidebar, so 
can just choose that in the pop up menu during the save as process.  Glad Apple 
mail has improved that over the years  

And yes my gmail is set up as imap seems to be a little smoother that way since 
last summer.  Before that I had it as pop 3.  
On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:58 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Hi,  Are you using imap?  if so, are you having messages moved to a local 
> mail box or what?  I never liked gmails way of filtering things.  For 
> example, If I created a label for mac access and had a filter to move all 
> messages from this list and  the messages would would show up  under the main 
> mail box and I feel that if they are ladled then they should only show up if 
> you activate the label.  I hope I am making sense.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Thomas, thanks for your wonderful description I have understood it 
>>> better this time. If it continues the same with you having said the rule 
>>> was to not apply, then rebooting it, then yes I would think there is 
>>> something buggy in mail.  I had a problem with Safari in our Tiger machine, 
>>> it wouldn't upgrade itself, wound up just doing a clean re-install, and it 
>>> was fine after that.  Guess it was time for me to have done that anyway 
>>> because we had had the machine for 5 years so there was a lot of junk init.
>> 
>> Just let me know how it works, I find that some of the Mac Visionaries 
>> people's mail still come into main mail box because they send to list and to 
>> the individuals of the list they have in their address books.  But haven't 
>> set aside a box for Mac Access group, or created a rule for it to go into 
>> the general Mac box yet.
>> 
>> I am hoping though that they rule will now start doing it's actual purpose 
>> instead of shunting everything into your bulk mail folder.  If it doesn't 
>> then you are going to have to talk with Apple or do a re-install.  Would 
>> talk to Apple first though if you haven't already done that.  But first 
>> we'll hope it sticks this time.  Now when you go to Rules again after 
>> rebooting mail you can interact into the table and you should see the new 
>> rule active at tis point.  If it isn't then just check it so that it is, but 
>> mine has always automatically activated the rules upon restarting mail.  I 
>> still have to move all the previous messages, but once you have moved it to 
>> the mailbox you want from the bulk mail, then each time you find a message 
>> to go there just do command option t and it will move again.  then you can 
>> just sit in the messages table and scroll up and down.  Actually if you have 
>> a bunch of list mail in a row after moving one to the new box, just hold the 
>> shift key down an
 d
>  a
>> rrow down and it will highlight each one then when you get to the last of 
>> the group to be moved then command option t.  
>>> I have decided to start from scratch by deleting everything rule mailbox 
>>> etc. I have created it again but have told it to don't apply message rule 
>>> to the given box. Fingers crossed in hoping it will work. 
>>> When you say something buggy, do you mean with my system or with mail its 
>>> self. I thought I red somewhere that one can delete a preference file with 
>>> an extension of .con or something like. I was just wondering Would this 
>>> have anything to do with it. Just another idea. I don't know where the mail 
>>> preference file is located but I won't touch anything unless someone 
>>> advises the idea. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks again
>>> 
>>> Daniel  fence   
>>> On 25 Mar 2012, at 00:19, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think I answered this before, but when you set up the rule did you tell 
>>>> it to apply?  Because if you did you told it to apply to your current open 
>>>> mail boxes.  Tell it not to apply initially, say no.  Then close mail and 
>>>> re open it and then see if it does what it is doing now, or does what it's 
>>>> supposed to do.  It has been a peculiarity of Apple mail for years that if 
>>>> you say yes in the dialog in applying the rule when setting it up, or just 
>>>> after setting it up it does all sorts of strange stuff.  Have had it 
>>>> happen to me before that all new mail regardless was going to the box of 
>>>> the new rule instead of my in-box because I said bess.  But chances are if 
>>>> you say no then close mail and restart then any mail designated to rule 
>>>> procedure will from that point on go to the place where you want it to go, 
>>>> however, sometimes you will get mail from individual members that might 
>>>> still show up in your main box.  The rule by default is being applied when 
>>>> you start mail but it's no
 t
> 
>> s
>>> ea
>>>> rching and moving stuff that you already have gotten only what is coming 
>>>> in.  Think you are fortunate that it's moving the groups messages to bulk 
>>>> mail, and not everything into the box that you have the group's mail going 
>>>> to.  
>>>> 
>>>> So find the rule and edit, and then say okay and see if the apply dialog 
>>>> comes up. If it doesn't then delete the rule and set it up again, and this 
>>>> time say no in that final dialog.  Then restart mail wait a while then 
>>>> check the new box and see if anything has gone in there, then check the 
>>>> bulk and see if it's sending them there still.  If the second is 
>>>> happening, then I think there's a problem that I can't figure out an 
>>>> answer to, in other words something buggy.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Tracey, thanks for your feedback but the strange thing is, I have 
>>>>> already setup my message rule in the following way. Creating giving it a 
>>>>> description. Use mac-access@mac-access.net as the To address. Create the 
>>>>> mailbox and move the message rule to it. I have also told Mail to apply 
>>>>> the rule when finishing creating it. With all this done though I am still 
>>>>> getting every single message from this list going into my Bulk mailbox 
>>>>> which quite simply shouldn't be happening. Its like mail is completely 
>>>>> ignoring the rule or doesn't know it exists. 
>>>>> ?Any help from anyone would be wonderful because I'm getting fed up with 
>>>>> messages gong into the bulk folder LOL. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel     
>>>>> On 24 Mar 2012, at 14:39, Tracy Thompson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Make sure your first criteria is any recipient or "To:" Then, use 
>>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net as the criteria. In the action field, select 
>>>>>> "Move" and then select the mailbox you need to use. We do this here and 
>>>>>> it works fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Mar 2012, at 18:05, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all, I have previously asked this but didn't receive a satisfactory 
>>>>>> answer is I'll try again. 
>>>>>> Basically I have created a message rule for this list with a mailbox 
>>>>>> that in theory should move any message as long as it says 
>>>>>> "mac-access@mac-access.net" without the quotes, to my mailbox which is 
>>>>>> called mac-access. Well to cut a long story short It doesn't matter who 
>>>>>> sends a message from this list they always without fail end up in my 
>>>>>> Bulk mailbox. I did applied my rules after creating it so I can't 
>>>>>> understand why it isn't working because my other Mac related list that 
>>>>>> I'm on Mac for the blind is working like a charm. All messages go into 
>>>>>> the correct mailbox. 
>>>>>> So any advice or instructions or ask me to write out my actual steps of 
>>>>>> my message rule would be great fully appreciated because I'd like to get 
>>>>>> this fixed. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I look forward to some feedback and suggestions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel    
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