ah super! i'll try that.
I've also meet some problems of shortcut
 when vo is working with win and jaws.
 I've an old version of vmware : the 3.x and some options are not working with 
Lion or too slow for me... I know that the new one is better but I didn't want 
to buy it. No I need it for my job...
I didn't new the shortcuts  and method that you explain. I'm happy to know them.

Thanks a lot!

Murielle
 Le 25 avr. 2012 à 00:08, David Griffith a écrit :

> If I understand you correctly then what you want to do is as follows.
> 
> 1. Go to  your Documents folder where you will find the  Virtual Machines
> folder set up by VM fusion.
> 2. Highlight the version of Windows that you want quick access to.
> 
> 3. press command shift T to place a shortcut to that Windows machine on your
> dock.
> 
> 4. to launch Windows just go to Dock with VO D or control F3 and then press
> W. This will probably land you on Windows. Now just press Return and this
> version of windows will open directly in VM Fusion.
> You could set up a right option shortcut in VO settings to launch this
> virtual machine but I have not bothered. This is because  using this method
> is already pretty rapid.
> 
> I then personally turn VO off with command F5 and then press control command
> and return to enter full screen mode with Jaws. Some people report being
> able to have VO running in the background of windows but personally I found
> a great deal of difficulty if I did not close VO. For example the cursor
> keys would not work properly.
> 
> After you have finished your windows work then Reverse the keystrokes to get
> back to Mac
> I have VM fusion set to automatically suspend when quitting VM fusion. So
> generally for me on my Imac getting into and out of windows is pretty
> instantaneous.
> 
> David Griffith.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Murielle (listes)
> Sent: 24 April 2012 22:35
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: for David (configuration of vmware fusion )
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> i'd like to know how did you have configured vmware windows and jaws to
> avoid some problems with shorcuts?
> Some launches the dashboard or other mac things.
> But when I configure "mac shortcut unable" I can't quit vmware fusion and
> I've some other problems, to change of window for example.
> 
> 
> So I stop vo when I'm using windows but I like tou use the 2 systems
> together And I'd like keep vo working when I'm using Win with bootcamp.
> Is it possible?
> 
> Murielle
> 
> Do you think that it
> I've not yet install it because of my  the problem that I've explain.
> ...
> 
> 
> Le 24 avr. 2012 à 23:05, David Griffith a écrit :
> 
>> My answers to your questions would be
>> 
>> 1, what were some of the most important changes from using jaws to 
>> using voice over that you who made that switch had to get used to?
>> 
>> My answer is take your time. VO is different to Jaws, some things are 
>> better, some things are more difficult such as selecting text on web
> pages.
>> There are work around for most problems. 
>> 
>> 2, what are the biggest things I should know about switching?
>> Try to learn about interaction as a key concept. Setting the tab key 
>> to automatically interact will make this concept more intuitive.
>> The way the Mac cursors with text is different to the way that Windows 
>> screenreaders read. You can set Mac to work like a windows screen 
>> reader but I would not recommend it as it creates other problems with 
>> cursor navigation. . Try to learn how the Mac does things. Ask again 
>> on this this list if you need help with this.
>> 
>> 3, what are the best web tutorials for learning voice over?
>> I think  the Vision Australia podcasts are the best introduction to 
>> using the Mac as they are short, to the point and clear.
>> 4, if any of you used Kurzweil1000 for Windows, what did you do for a mac?
>> Are there any other OCR programs that work with voice over and are as 
>> good as Kurzweil?
>> I have good experience with EyePal for Mac but this is a very 
>> expensive option.
>> Other people report good experience  with Docuscan with HoverCam with 
>> is slightly  is less expensive but still pricey.
>> At the budget end some people report success with Abbey Finereader
> Express.
>> 
>> 5, I have office for mac, how vo accessible is this and what can I do 
>> to make it more accessible?
>> Not accessible at all and nothing you can currently do about it.
>> Also unfortunately Open Office  is no longer accessible under Lion.
>> What you do depends on how extensive Office functions you need.
>> I Works applications from Apple are a cheap option but are 
>> significantly different from Windows applications and will be a 
>> significant learning curve. I have found limited VO tutorials etc for 
>> VO support for these applications.
>> Nisus Writer Pro is a good Word processor for the Mac but VO support 
>> for reading Tables is pretty non existent in Nisus and other word
> Processors.
>> There are various clunky work around including copying the tables as 
>> text into text edit but if you need to read significant amonamounts of 
>> Tables you will probably want to have Jaws in a virtual Machine handy.
>> If you just have basic word processing needs then Text Edit, which 
>> comes free with the Mac is pretty powerful, much more powerful than 
>> WordPad for example. Also bean is a good free word-process.
>> 
>> 6, this is a mac question in general, what programs did y'all use to 
>> run windows programs on your mac, did you all use boot camp or 
>> something else and what's the cheapesst/easiest?
>> 
>> I am a fan of VM fusion, it is fast, completely accessible, and you 
>> can even install windows without sighted help. help I have a boot camp 
>> partition but never use it, I only use fusion as Windows is just a 
>> keystroke and a few seconds away on the Mac. With fusion you can have the
> best of both worlds.
>> 
>> 
>> Although I have taken time to answer these questions it is probably 
>> better to ask one question at a time on the list. You are more likely 
>> to then get answers.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> .
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