I emailed accessibility, I'll probably get the same thing back, but you're right, not initially accessible at all.
On 7/25/12, Nicolai Svendsen <chojiro1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I pointed this out in an earlier message about upgrading to Mountain Lion. > > If you hit enter, VoiceOVer speaks the current date but I haven't found a > way to accessibly change it. I'd guess that it's a widget which makes use of > a canvas element or another visual element to change the date, but the arrow > keys don't actively seem to do anything. In a lot of cases, the mouse is the > only way to use these kinds of elements. My guess is that you can use Mouse > keys, but I'm not very proficient at them and I find them pretty slow as > they only seem to move by pixel. I've done this without VoiceOVer on, and I > just tried this with VoiceOver on as well and it works. > > Essentially, what VoiceOver does not pick up is that it is a table imbedded > within a widget such as a canvas, which contains the various dates. You have > to click on them to change the date. If you use the "Speak text under mouse > after delay" checkbox in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Announcements tab, you > can use the mouse to quite accessibly move your finger over the various > columns and click to change it. VoiceOver will announce the change, but be > sure to hit enter first when the date text has focus or VoiceOver seems to > remain quiet. I also recommend that if you use this approach, set the delay > slider to 0% so that it is 0 seconds. > > Obviously, it's important that you ensure the mouse has focus with VO-F5. > The element normally does obtain focus as expected, but if not, hit > VO-Command-F5 and start moving around to try to find the date you want. > > Again, Apple should have designed this with accessibility in mind, but it > has not it would seem. I'm sorry if this sounds like a very crazy approach, > but it seems to be the only one in this instance. Mouse keys seem to move by > pixels, and this is fine except it would take a very long time to get > between the various columns. > > Regards, > Nicolai > On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:31 AM, josh gregory <joshkar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, >> voiceover wouldn't do it. >> >> On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com <mori...@mac.com> wrote: >>> Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, >>> >>> I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program >>> for >>> getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new >>> Mac >>> from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or >>> a >>> refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also >>> applies >>> to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but >>> which >>> come with Lion installed. The program is called "Up-to-Date", and you >>> have >>> to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, >>> 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your >>> purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which >>> have >>> Lion loaded as the operating system). >>> >>> The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a >>> coupon >>> code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App >>> Store, >>> but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes >>> not >>> working in the massive startup today. >>> >>> For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date >>> program: >>> http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ >>> >>> Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your >>> purchase, >>> so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if >>> you >>> purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because >>> they >>> can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: >>> >>>> My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date >>>> text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed >>>> Apple about it. >>>> >>>> On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy <tme...@fuse.net> wrote: >>>>> I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion >>>>> upgrade. >>>>> I >>>>> believe it is on Apple's website. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory <joshkar...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but >>>>>> I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it >>>>>> is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. >>>>>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at >>> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>> virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>> visiting >>> the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ways to Connect with me: >> >> facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo >> >> twitter.com/joshg93 >> Skype: joshgregory93 >> FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. 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