Actually, I find that I can sometimes vertically manipulate tables. It depends very much on how the web table is constructed. Where VoiceOver does have a massive weakness which I reported to Apple a very long time ago, is with sites that use Ajax. VoiceOver users struggle on such sites, which is why I personally believe that the Take Control service we offer is so valuable to our members. That site uses Ajax and although I've discussed this several times with Adam and been promised that they're going to switch to a new website any day now, months later it still hasn't happened. Neither, I'm sorry to say, did Apple bother to acknowledge my bug report, let alone fix it.
Disappointing in some ways, but it's important to keep banging heads together about accessibility. Otherwise, we all get nowhere. I don't agree with the comment below regarding nothing else that can be done. Accessibility still has some way to go. yes, many and possibly even most sites do work well. But there are some sites which, although visually attractive and very accessible under other operating systems, just don't behave predictably or even at all with VoiceOver. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 02:02, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: There was nothing mentioned about these in mountain lion, personally I don't see what else could really be done, navigation works fine on the web. <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>