Weird, because I can type in that grade perfectly on my braillenote apex. On 8/10/12, Sean Murphy <smur7...@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi All. > > > I have just discovered the Mac does not support Computer Braille Grade 0. It > supports English grade 1 USA, UK and Unicode. But you do not get Computer > grade braille USA or British. I prefer USa Computer Grade Braille when > reading computer related information. > > Any ideas on resolving this? > > > Sean > On 11/08/2012, at 10:18 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >>> I was experimenting while drafting a reply to Phil's question about >>> double >>> clicking and right clicking, and came across an interesting side >>> behavior >>> from the application KeyRemap4MacBook that allows me to use the NumPad >>> Commander key definitions, including combinations with modifier keys, on >>> a >>> laptop. For background information, this software is shareware (free, >>> but >>> donations suggested if you find it useful), and can be used to remap >>> keyboard keys. While many people who have installed VMWare Fusion to >>> run >>> Windows under a virtual machine used Sharp Keys to remap keys under the >>> Windows guest system, others have use Fusion's preferences, and still >>> others have used KeyRemap4MacBook. The distinction is that >>> KeyRemap4MacBook is a Mac-based program (while Fusion's preferences take >>> effect only within the virtual machines, which might be Linux, Windows, >>> etc.; and Sharp Keys is a Windows registry hack that only works for the >>> Windows VM). KeyRemap4Macbook (hereafter, KR4MB) can also be used for >>> general Mac keyboard remapping, to support different language >>> implementations, etc. For example, I think someone has used this to >>> remap >>> the right Command key to be a Control key, so that the bottom row gives >>> you VO keys on both sides of the space bar. Just a warning that this is >>> going to be a long post, and may be primarily of interest to those >>> interested in the technical side of working their Macs. I'm hoping to >>> enlist some assistance in checking out what I hope are new capabilities >>> for laptop Mac users. >>> >>> The interesting discovery is that when you download and install KR4MB on >>> Mac laptops, by default you gain access to the embedded number pad in >>> the >>> right hand side of the keyboard when you press the "Fn" key in >>> combination >>> with these keys. So, if I want to enter a series of numbers, holding >>> down >>> the "Fn" key and pressing "j k l" generates "1 2 3", while holding down >>> the "Fn" key and pressing "u i o" generates "4 5 6". This is exactly >>> the >>> way things worked on the PowerPC laptop keyboards and the early Intel >>> MacBooks (before year's end 2008). You could access the embedded >>> numeric >>> keypad -- both numbers and math operation characters -- either by >>> toggling >>> on the "NumLock" function of the F6 key, or by pressing "Fn" with each >>> key >>> without having to toggle on "NumLock". >>> >>> The even more interesting discovery is that you can use the embedded >>> numeric keypad with the Fn key to generate the NumPad Commander >>> combinations, including the ones with modifier keys like "Command", >>> "Option", "Control", or "Shift", if you turn on NumPad Commander by >>> checking the box for "Enable NumPad Commander" under the "Commanders" >>> menu >>> of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). In fact, if you turn on keyboard help mode >>> with VO-k and press the keys on the right hand side of the keyboard >>> where >>> the embedded number pad would be on the old laptops, together with the >>> "Fn" key and modifiers, VoiceOver will identify the corresponding NumPad >>> Commander operation that is currently bound to that combination. >>> >>> For background, over two years ago there was a discussion on this list >>> about being able to use the unmodified NumPad Commander keyboard >>> shortcuts >>> on a laptop if you press the number key from the top row on the keyboard >>> in place of the corresponding NumPad key together with an arrow key. >>> Again, NumPad Commander must be enabled in VoiceOver Utility for this to >>> work. I think that Sarah, at least, takes advantage of this on her >>> laptop. >>> (The trick is to find an arrow key to press that doesn't also move focus >>> while you use these combinations.) I'll give the link to the old >>> discussion in the list archives, since this predates the use of the Mail >>> Archive with its search facilities, and I went back to read up on this. >>> There were some truly odd aspects of the way this worked. For one thing, >>> I >>> could run the default unmodified NumPad Commander definitions on my 12" >>> G4 >>> PowerBook under Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4), which still had a working >>> embedded >>> Numeric Keypad, even though NumPad Commander was not introduced until >>> Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5). Anne could press the top row keys in >>> combination >>> with arrow keys on a French keyboard to get these sequences, even though >>> on a French keyboard typing the numbers by themselves in the top row of >>> keys requires pressing the "Shift" key. Here's the old discussion >>> archive >>> link: >>> >>> Keyboard Shortcuts from NumPad Commander without a NumPad: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2010/000101.html >>> >>> As far as I can tell so far, using KR4MB does not produce any bad side >>> effects for VoiceOver use. Even without using the NumPad Commander >>> definitions it appears useful to have an alternate way to enter numbers. >>> When KR4MB is installed the combination of pressing a number from the >>> top >>> row of keys and an arrow key no longer seems to generate the unmodified >>> NumPad Commander operation for that number key. On the other hand, >>> there >>> are probably things I can't easily test by myself. I've switched >>> language >>> keyboards, and the NumPad definitions seem to work OK. I've been doing >>> my >>> test on a 13" MacBook Pro (2010 model) running Snow Leopard. But I >>> don't >>> know, for example, whether the remapped keys have any contention issues >>> with key definitions for people running VMWare and Windows or Bootcamp. >>> Also, I haven't tried the key emulation in Bluetooth applications like >>> Type2Phone yet, but I think that app might use the native keystrokes, >>> only. My machine also runs TextExpander, which shouldn't affect the key >>> remapping, but it could generate odd input combinations. Anyone who >>> wants >>> to try experimenting with this should probably not be using other key >>> remapping software in contention. >>> >>> I think this is definitely an interesting set of features to test out, >>> but >>> there should probably be additional checking of the NumPad Commander >>> function usage. In other respects KR4MB appears to be well-designed >>> software. Here's the developer's web page for those of you who are >>> interested: >>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/ >>> >>> Note that there are two different versions of the software (version >>> 7.8.0 >>> for Mountain Lion, Lion, and Snow Leopard, and version 5.1.0 for Leopard >>> and Tiger). This downloads as a .dmg file. I just double clicked after >>> opening the .dmg file to install on Snow Leopard, but there are specific >>> instructions about using the contextual to open in compliance with >>> GateKeeper under Mountain Lion. >>> >>> Again, I'd hope that a few people would check this out and report back >>> on >>> their results. >>> >>> HTH. 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