Hi all, Chris, you asked which website I was trying this on - have tried several, including charity job.co.uk but it seems to happen every time I try on whichever website.
Thanks for the suggestion about resetting and the instructions on how to do so, I'll try this later today. I think I'll still do some more experiments with the VO Shift C method as the sounds so convenient, I'm just concerned that what gets counted as a phrase may be too small for what I want, but I'll fiddle around and get used to it as I think this could be really handy. I wonder if there's a way to set up a document in TextEdit or somewhere which could automatically act as a pasteboard, where anything copied would automatically get pasted there? If so, I could do the VO Shift C thing several times to get what I want and then go and save it and switch automatic pasting off… I'll come back later and let you know whether resetting VO settings helped… Many thanks for this and all the help you're giving me on this list, Catherine On 5/3/13, Isaac Hebert <isaac.heb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes resetting fixes most problems. > > On 5/3/13, Josh Gregory <joshkar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yeah there is a way to reset everything. When in VoiceOver utility, go >> into >> the file menu and there's a reset option. From there you can reset the >> custom settings to default settings, reset all settings and other such >> things. Hth. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 3, 2013, at 4:54 AM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I have precisely the same problem with headings . >>> This and other unpredictability's , including constraints on copying >>> amounts of text to one paragraph, is why I never ever recommend the VO >>> Enter >>> method of copying from web pages. It is excessively clunky also in terms >>> of >>> keystrokes. >>> >>> The other selection and copying methods are in my experience far more >>> predictable and reliable. Especially line selection via quick nav and >>> the >>> rota and or shift VO C. >>> >>> Because I cannot replicate your general difficulties with either the >>> announcement of selected text or using shift VO C it is difficult to >>> know >>> what to suggest. >>> >>> I am not sure if there is a setting in Voiceover Utility to return >>> settings >>> to default, if so this might be worth trying. >>> Also perhaps somebody could offer you a set of portable Voiceover >>> settings >>> to apply which may correct your difficulties. I am not sure how to do >>> this >>> but would be happy to do this if it helped. >>> I may not be the best though as I am using an iMac with extended >>> keyboard >>> and using numpad commander. My settings may not suit somebody using a >>> MacBook. I also have keys set up in keyboard shortcuts to run programs >>> like >>> Eyepal which you almost certainly do not have. >>> Assuming you can eventually get Voiceover to behave properly you should >>> find >>> Shift VO C the easiest method as you do not have to select or even use >>> the >>> copy command, it is all done with the one keystroke. I use it to get >>> around >>> the copying of heading text problem on web pages frequently for example. >>> >>> Hope that you resolve this. >>> >>> >>> David Griffith >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner >>> Sent: 03 May 2013 09:33 >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> Ok, when on a web page and with Quick Nav on I pressed h to get to a >>> heading, then VO plus Return. But I just get a beep which indicates I'm >>> trying to do something which can't be done. I tried then moving >>> somewhere >>> after the heading and pressing VO Return again, then copying and pasting >>> anyway just to check, and nothing was selected. I tried with Quick Nav >>> switched off as well and had the same results. Have you any ideas >>> what's >>> going on here? It's very frustrating and I can't help thinking I just >>> must >>> be doing something wrong but I don't for the life of me know what. I >>> went >>> into keyboard help to make sure I am pressing the correct keys and it >>> says >>> wen I press Option Control Return "select item" so I am pressing the >>> right >>> things.any ideas? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Catherine >>> >>> On 5/2/13, Chris Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: >>>> There's a way easier way to do this. >>>> >>>> Start by placing Voiceover on the item you need to begin selecting >>>> from, then hit vo+return. Now use your vo navigation and go to the >>>> end of what you need selected. Then hit vo+return again. Now >>>> everything between those >>>> >>>> chunks should be selected. Now just hit command+C to copy. >>>> >>>> It took me quite some time to figure this out, but now that I have, it >>>> usually never fails. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2...@googlemail.com> >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:46 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> I've now assigned a key on the numpad to the copy last phrase to >>>>> clipboard command and was hoping I could use this to copy quite a >>>>> large chunk of text to the clipboard. I started VO reading with a >>>>> two finger swipe down and when it got to the end of what I wanted two >>>>> finger tapped to stop it. I silenced it a bit too late and the last >>>>> thing it said was "list 2 items" which was after the text I wanted, >>>>> and when I pasted the result I just had "list two items". I was then >>>>> hoping I could move by paragraph and copy those one at a time but >>>>> paragraphs doesn't seem to be an option in the web rotor. I haven't >>>>> tried moving by static text as I assume, because there are links >>>>> mixed into this largely textual bit of the page, that wouldn't work >>>>> all the way through. >>>>> >>>>> What I want to select is a heading, then a few links, and then a >>>>> large chunk of text which has some links scattered throughout. Is it >>>>> possible to select all this in one go using either the interact with >>>>> text thing, or the copy last phrase to clipboard thing? What I mean >>>>> by "all in one go" is pressing any combination of keystrokes several >>>>> times to select the stuff without having to select first a heading, >>>>> copy and paste that, then go and select /copy/paste some text, then >>>>> the links etc. If not I'll probably use the quick nav, press shift >>>>> down arrow method just press it lots of times and see what the >>>>> results are when I paste it (as VO isn't announcing the selection). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Catherine >>>>> >>>>> On 5/1/13, David Griffith <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>>> I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari >>>>>> announcing text that I had selected no matter what method I used >>>>>> including lines and words selected from the Web rota. >>>>>> There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings >>>>>> where it >>>>>> >>>>>> is >>>>>> not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an >>>>>> issue not confined to you as others on this list appear also to have >>>>>> encountered this problem. >>>>>> Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. 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