And, wouldn't that be considered something that shouldn't be discussed through here as it would be NDA sensitive?

Chris.

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Subject: Re: Article: Apple loses its shine


Interesting, where did you hear that? There's also rumors that Apple may allow other keyboards, but nothing confirmed.
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Hello:
Just to let know that in this release of iOS 7, Apple has opened the TTS API, so developers can use it to make their Apps speak with system voices or use a single TTS engine for many Apps, and not as it was before.
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El 25/06/2013, a las 16:19, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> escribió:

Exactly. You may have 3 or 4 copies of the same TTS engine on your device, because each application must provide their own TTS and Apple does not allow you to install other voices and use them system wise. They also do not allow developers to use the voices that are already built in. Those restrictions are just silly.
Original message:
Now with the keyboards and voices I agree. I hate that voice dream has to provide voices that read2go already has, and that seroprok can't be on iOS, and that eSpeak can't be ported to iOS. But I heard they're opening up a lot of API's for iOS7, so yeah, maybe speech and keyboard is among them.
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On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:

I don't want Apple to be google, and I do not want IOS to be android. But what I would like is for IOS to provide the features that in most other operating systems, desktop and mobile. I honestly cannot think of any other operating system that did not allow you to manage files. Windows provides this, so does the Mac, linux, and even Symbian and Windows Mobile 6 provided this functionality. Why IOS does not provide or even really allow this easily I will never understand. Also the issues of not allowing you to install other keyboards, this doesn't really apply to most desktop operating systems, but the voices restriction does. With just about every other operating system, you can install other voices and use them system wide, each application is not required to include its own voice, again, there is simply no logical reason for that.
On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:

I somewhat agree with you, but I just don't want Apple to be Google. I love apple's commitment to accessibility better. LOL as we all surely do.
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On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Moop Curran <moopiecur...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I'd have to agree with both of you, I love mac for my desktop platform, but I like my android tablet because it's more versatile. I wish apple would make iOs more versatile, like mac, I'm probably one of a few that would like iOs to act like mac os. I thin if the device is mine, I should be able to install whatever app I want on it.
Courtney

Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:

Yep, I would say you hit the mark exactly. I'm actually probably a rare
breed, I much prefer the mac for my desktop platform, but for the
mobile device, I prefer android. I might consider going back to IOS if Apple ever lifts any of their restrictions, but that's not likely to
happen.
On Jun 24, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:

Well, this is how I see it. Apple is just, well, Apple. They feel
that iOS shouldn't be a computer operating system. After all, your
phone, usually isn't your computer. The mac has a file manager and
everything else, as you know, and can be added to with any software you want. Android is android though, and better for people that want full
access.
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On Jun 24, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:

That's certainly true about windows phone 8 and blackberry, but if
you have not tried the newest version of android, you might be
pleasantly surprised. The biggest problem I have with IOS is that it does not do basic things that other operating systems do, such as file
management. Also, Apple insists on using nonstandard proprietary
connectors, and, unless you jail break it, you can only install
applications Apple approves. Personally, I have a problem with someone
else deciding what I can and cannot install on a device I have
purchased. Android is different, but the newest version is just as
accessible as IOS I would say. I use it on a daily basis for phone
calls, messaging, playing music, listening to radio stations,
identifying things with the camera, and listening to books.
Original message:
Right exactly, and for visually impaired people, iOS is the
preferred platform, while there are others out there, they are not
nearly as accessible.

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On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>
wrote:

An interesting article and I agree with some of what it says. In
some ways, Apple has developed a standard for itself that is very high, and now that some of their features are in other devices, some people could lose interest. On the other hand, the sales will tell the final story. As long as Apple is happy with their sales, they will continue
to do what they are doing, and why not. If it is selling, why not
continue it.
Original message:
A couple of people have been asking about IOS 7 and related
topics so thought perhaps this article may shed some light.


<http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/apple-loses-its-shine-20130620-2ojs0.html>


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