Andy,

I'm a bit brain-dead, so this may not be worth saying, but do you use VO  J? 
This cycles between Message header messages and/or mailbox, I think.

Now I'm off the phone also. Enough  for today! May do better tomorrow! 

Carol P
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On 20 Jul 2013, at 08:39 PM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote:

> Hi John, and Carol -
> 
> I am now using command 1 to get back to my inbox, but the problem I have is 
> that when I press enter to read a message, and then do command 1, I'm not 
> always back where I expect to be, sometimes I'm on a headers list, sometimes 
> on the message group. Over all, I am coping with the mail experience, but I'm 
> not interacting as quickly and consistantly as I would like to, partly 
> because it isn't looking consistantly the same way. I accept some opperator 
> error at this end, but would really like to know how to have mail set up so 
> that I could just see who the message was from, the subject, and the actual 
> message itself, and that when I want to read the message, after doing so, I 
> want to either delete it, or come out of it and see the next one without 
> faffing about with the VO and arrow keys to find my way around again. -
> 
> Andy 
> On 20 Jul 2013, at 20:21, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> 
>>  Next time, try command-1 and that will take you back to the inbox in Mail.  
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
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>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Carol <carol.pearso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi Andy and all,
>>> 
>>> I think we discussed this a little while back and were both feeling a bit 
>>> confused when we found ourselves in this situation (which I always think of 
>>> as being in a maze, - and that isn't my favourite place to be!
>>> 
>>> Well, I wandered there again today - and knew I would - so just had to find 
>>> a realistic way out!  Eventually I came up with this (as well as I can 
>>> remember it now).
>>> 
>>> Go to Mail Menu then to File Menu.  There, I discovered, was another item 
>>> ((which had appeared), "which was New Viewer Window".  (I think command 
>>> option N gets you there.  ...
>>> 
>>> This re-loads the window you were in last!  (I was in fact making my way 
>>> back to my In-box at the time.)
>>> 
>>> I then brought up the Item Chooser and found my In-box (safely and quickly) 
>>> and was back on the road once again.
>>> 
>>> I hope you can follow this, just about as well as I am following it now 
>>> after being on the Mac for ages, and ending up back there again ... because 
>>> I did something stupid whilst writing this email.  Anyway, I really do hope 
>>> that it helps you! also!  If it does then it's all worthwhile!
>>> 
>>> Can anyone else explain, please, why we keep wandering into this situation? 
>>>  It's obviously to do with wrong keystrokes ...  Is there an easier way out 
>>> than I've given here?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and I'm off the Mac now for today!
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
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