Yeah, maybe that's a benefit to us.

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> On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Have you guys noticed Siri behaves differently whether VoiceOver is on or 
> off? With VoiceOver on Siri is more descriptive but with VoiceOver off Siri 
> is less than helpful and expects you to look at any information presented. 
> Just saying.
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>> On 04/10/2013 11:18, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> Yeah, the only sure fire way that I can think of to get it to work would be 
>> to turn off voice over, and even then it won't work half the time. Sometimes 
>> it will work, but it is hit or miss, I might ask it a few things and it 
>> might be spot on sometimes, but that's only sometimes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:53 AM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree that the usability of Siri has plummeted.
>>> 
>>> It has failed to make 3 calls in the last 10 minutes alone  even though it
>>> announces that it is calling the number.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas
>>> Sent: 03 October 2013 21:15
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
>>> 
>>> siri for me on ios is shocking now it never responds smile i do like the OS
>>> now since 7.0.2 it seems a lot more responsive to VO users though battery
>>> life as to be expected terrible even with motion control off
>>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2013, at 21:01, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>> <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think you're a little confused.  The 5C does not go any higher than the
>>> 32 gig model, but the 5S goes all the way up to 64 gigs.  I just wanted to
>>> clarify, as I can see where that may be confusing.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami"
>>>> <marri...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:54 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: What's the accessibility take on iOS7?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I love ios7 and all its glory.  It's accessible with some quirks and some
>>> pas crash and brake, but I'm sure that will come in time. But as for access
>>> issues others are reporting I'm not ringing them. Yu just need to practice
>>> some of the jesters  until you can do them in your sleep. Where did you hear
>>> the 64 gig model was *not* going to be around anymore? I did not hear such a
>>> thing even in the key note in june.
>>>> 
>>>> Tc.
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Cait and Maggie <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Lynn,
>>>>> Personally, I like IOS 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> some of the gestures took some getting used to, and I still struggle with
>>> a few of them, but that's me and not the OS!
>>>>> 
>>>>> We upgraded both our phones from i phone 4's to the 5C, 32 g model.  IOS
>>> 7 does run a bit faster on the new phones, but we didn't play around a lot
>>> with the older phones, either.  I am also running the new OS on my i pad 2
>>> and it's a bit sluggish, but this doesn't make it unusable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not sure what's available in the UK, but here in Canada, you can
>>> definitely buy a 5S in the 64 g model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Caitlyn
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-10-03, at 4:00 AM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith"
>>> <ly...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Firstly, let me just say that I'm not interested in what the "fat cats"
>>> and the professional analysts say; I'm looking for genuine user opinion
>>> here. I just wondered what you all make of iOS7.02 now that it is public, in
>>> terms of accessibility primarily, and functionality as a secondary topic.
>>> Speaking as somebody with vision, on the outside looking in as you might
>>> say, it seems to me that Apple has maintained its reputation and commitment
>>> as far as iOS is concerned, to accessibility. Although I haven't gave much
>>> of an opportunity to play around with VoiceOver yet, from the visual
>>> perspective iOS7.02 is gorgeous. I love the way that applications can now
>>> interact, and the gestures which were there in iOS6 have been improved upon.
>>> Of course, Apple's errors which only came to light when iOS7 hit the streets
>>> were a little embarrassing for them I would think. But in fairness, they did
>>> move swiftly to address them and now, we would seem to have as secure a
>>> mobiles operating system as we can reasonably expect.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do have one query though. I remember reading in the release notes that
>>> there are a small number of functions which only apply to the iPhone5,
>>> iPhone5C and iPhone5S. Is there anybody who has upgraded since the release
>>> of iOS7 to an iPhone5, iPhone5C or iPhone5S from an earlier model and has
>>> noticed a significant increase in functionality? If so, what were the
>>> significant differences that you noticed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am toying with the idea of upgrading all of our iPhones to the 5S. But
>>> I seem to remember that there is no longer a 64GB model available. Our
>>> iPhones are currently all the 4S 64GB models. They work fine, and if I'm
>>> going to upgrade there's have to be significant reasons. Yes, the dual
>>> cameras would be nice, but not essential.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I very much welcome your input, and I hope that we can maintain a
>>> cordial and productive discussion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lynne
>>>>>> 
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