I am afraid this is an aspect of quick nav that it defaults to the last
letter navigation. This is sometimes useful but like you I find this
annoying at times.
In the end I reason that I was just used to line reading as this was the
normal Windows way of doing things. It is not actually that logical in many
web page elements where lines are not fixed quantities with the realities of
adjustable fonts and text flows etc. A paragraph is a more logical web
element. I also realise that you cannot, or even reasonably expect the Mac
to reproduce all of the windows experience. I therefore learnt to adjust in
Quick Nav by using right arrow key to read a paragraph at a time which suits
the Mac and actually me most of the time . This is unaffected by use of any
of the Quick Nav button navigation options. I retain line reading for
occasional detailed reading or as a more flexible way of selecting text on
Safari web pages.
There are strength and weaknesses to Mac internet usage. There are aspects
some of web reading on the Mac which is far superior to Windows. If you
have not tried it, go to a BBC news site story and press command shift R to
launch Reader. Even the latest versions of Jaws do not achieve this level of
functionality.
David Griffith
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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar
Sent: 21 October 2013 07:00
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Question: Reading Webpages
Hi David,
Thanks a lot. I did as you had suggested (adding "line" to the router),
but I met some unexpected behavior that I'm wondering how to work around of.
When pressing H for jumping to the next heading, the router setting
changes to headings instead of lines and then I'll constantly have to
switch back to lines. Is there a way to do this quickly?
Thanks.
On 10/19/2013 12:41 PM, David Griffith wrote:
Also in relation to navigating by line this is indeed possible.
You need to check first of all that in Voiceover settings that you have
line as an item for the web rota checked. I believe it is not checked by
default.
Just navigate to web rota settings and look for line and then press space
to
set this up.
Now in Safari press left and right arrows to turn quick nav on.
Press left and up arrow to cycle through the rota until you hear lines.
Pressing down and up arrow will now navigate you by a line at a time. Left
and right arrow will still read by paragraph or heading element.
This is a good way of selecting text easily as you simply hold the shift
key
whilst pressing the down key. Unlike more clunky forms of text selection
in
Safari you will not be restricted to interactional elements like a
paragraph.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 19 October 2013 09:04
To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Question: Reading Webpages
Try changing the punctuation settings of Voiceover in Safari.
It sounds like you have it set to all. You might be better off with some
or
none.
You can access the major settings of Voiceover, including punctuation,
quickly by pressing control option command and right or left cursor keys
to
cycle through the settings.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Parham Doustdar
Sent: 19 October 2013 07:49
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Question: Reading Webpages
Hi,
I'm using Mac OSX 10.8.5. When trying to read the Google search results
and moving to the next item using VO + right from the heading that has
the webpage title, I hear things like this (each comma between the text
enclosed in quotes means I press VO + right at this point):
"Test.com | The best test site", "www", "test.com", "/", "example".
However, what I'd like to hear is this:
"Test.com | The best test site", "www.test.com/example"
Namely, I'd like to navigate by line.
Is this possible?
Thanks.
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