This is certainly useful and helpful as usual Esther. I guess with the EyePal is that one of us will have to suck it and see and try it out under Mavericks and the new X11. It is a disgrace though that the developers cannot say for sure.
David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: 03 November 2013 18:17 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: EyePal and X11 Hi Josh and David, For X11 starting with Mountain Lion you have to look for "XQuartz". This is Apple's X11, and can be downloaded from: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/ There's an Apple Knowledge base document "About X11 and OS X Mountain Lion" that explains this split: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5293 If you upgrade from Mountain Lion and use either the Xcode or X11 (meaning XQuartz) Developer tools, you have to reinstall these in Mavericks. I mention both these packages, because while most of us do not use third party applications based on X11, which is more of a visually oriented windows interface, more of us may install or port applications based on Xcode. The latest version of Xcode is available from the Mac app store, but this is not something you need unless you want to work as a developer or to run specific software that requires Xcode (generally to port applications that were written for other unix or Linux platforms to the Mac). You can read the wiki, "Installing Xcode Tools and X11": https://machelp.ucsd.edu/groups/publichelpwiki/wiki/36ac6/ This has been updated to include Mavericks, but the main modification in that document is the method of installing the Xcode command line tools from Terminal under Mavericks. You don't need to read this web page for installing X11, since the main information it gives is to summarize that starting with Mountain Lion X11 has been found in "XQuartz", which is X11 rebranded with the Apple logo, and to give the link to the web page. There is a reported bug if you are trying to run XQuartz in Mavericks with the new support for dual monitor option, but I don't think that affects any list users. The workaround is to go to System Preferences->Mission Control and uncheck "Displays have separate spaces". HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 3, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Josh Gregory wrote: > Good morning, do you have any ideas on how to find this product? I would be interested. And yes, I do, I initially had to fight to get it through local funds and such which is what has pissed me off because now I can't use it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 3, 2013, at 6:39 AM, "David Griffith" wrote: >> >> Changing the subject I see that you are an EyePal user as well, Josh. >> >> Are you using Mavericks? >> #Researching on Google I see that there is supposed to be a version of X11 which "installs on demand under Maverick". >> >> Humanware were useless when I tried to find out whether the Eyepal will work under Maverick. >> I got exactly the same response before I upgraded to Mountain Lion. In the end I had to identify an alternative X11 utility on the web which worked with EyePal on the Mac but no thanks to Humanware or the Developers who contributed precisely zilch. >> >> I have contacted Sarotech and Computer Room Services to ask if there is any possibility of the EyePal Camera working with Docuscan in the same as Kurzweil does on the Windows Platform. >> Again no response. I suspect that one of us will simply have to take the plunge and upgrade to see if will work. >> I will certainly not recommend that anybody gets a product from abisee again, and possibly Humanware as the follow up driver support is dreadful and the software has gene consistently buggy over several versions. >> >> >> David Griffith > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. 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