So I was told by somebody using an iPad at the RNIB. Based on his recommendation I purchased it for my iPhone but found it unusable. He maintains that it is accessible on his iPad, which appears supported by others, so we concluded that the app is inaccessible on an iPhone but accessible on an iPad. He maintains he can use it by using straightforward Voiceover commands. I have no direct experience of using it on an iPad however. David Griffith
-----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: 15 November 2013 15:44 To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility' Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? Quick office is now accessible? Wo baby! Since when did that happen! Chris. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:25 PM To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? I also have no vision, but I'm glad I have an iPad, and am planning to get a mini. I use my i-devices for so much, that I would not want to depend on just the one phone. There's audible, Kindle iBooks. And those are just the reading things. There is Twitter, email, and some wordprocessing. In fact, I would be interested in knowing more about the accessible version of quick office for iPad. This is the first I've heard of that. In some cases, apps will look and perform differently on the two devices. For instance, with websites, on the iPad, you get the regular website. On the phone, you get the mobile site. Some apps are laid out differently. For example, there is the settings app. On the iPad, you have everything down the left for categories, and on the right as a category gets focused, you have all the choices. So you don't have to move back and forward between so many screens. Occasionally, an app will be more accessible on one platform or the other. For example, the site app had been perfectly accessible on the iPad, while on the phone it was not. Sadly this is no longer the case. If you like things like Netflix, the sound on the iPad being stereo, is better than it is on the phone. I myself find that app difficult to use, so I don't go there. But others do. But the biggest reason is simply that I don't think I could do a day on an iPhone if I had to just use that device. The battery would run out too soon. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote: > As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to > require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery > life. > The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap > external Bluetooth keyboard on an iPhone will give a better keyboard > experience anyway. > > If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely > different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger > display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been > able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At > the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which > is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone. > However Pages will meet most word processing needs and I do not routinely > use Spreadsheets on a mobile device. > > So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to > a phone seem very tenuous to me. > > David Griffith > > David Griffith > > > . > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77 > Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40 > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone? > > Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe > iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use > my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail, > write files and so on and so on and so on. 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