I would guess in a lot of cases you don't even need an assistant to turn VO on 
for you when you are in a store. As long as the device on demonstration is 
connected to the Internet, just press and hold the home key, and ask Siri to 
turn on voice over -

Andy
On 15 Nov 2013, at 04:19, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brenda,
> So, you don't have an Apple Store or a Mac store near you? How about a Best 
> Buy? Staples? Even Walmart? Lots of stores are carrying iPads these days. And 
> all you have to do is get someone to turn voice over on for you when you're 
> in the store.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:15 PM, "meadowlark77" <meadowlar...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Oo! This is very interesting. I wonder what I'd actually think. Too bad I 
>> can't go get the feel of one with the screen reader running and so on.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paula Hobley" <technological_gen...@paulahobley.com>
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:45 PM
>> Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there
>> 
>> I am totally blind and I have both.  I use both for different things.  I
>> love using my IPad for reading, as the pages don't turn as often as they do
>> on the phone, and the battery lasts a lot longer. I also use it for word
>> processing when I'm out and about.  I like the Bluetooth keyboard case for
>> the IPad as everything just folds in on itself.  I am not so fond of how the
>> menus look in settings, I find it more difficult to conceptualise. I think
>> it all comes down to personal preference.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Paula
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:16 AM
>> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
>> Subject: RE: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
>> 
>> As far as I can see there are no compelling reasons for a blind user to
>> require an iPad in addition to an iPhone, apart from possible better battery
>> life.
>> The physical size of the iPad makes the onscreen keyboard larger but a cheap
>> external Bluetooth keyboard   on an iPhone will give a better keyboard
>> experience anyway.
>> 
>> If however, you have some useful vision then the situation is completely
>> different and there are of course lots of advantages in having a bigger
>> display area to look at. As I am not in that category nobody has ever been
>> able to explain to me what advantage an iPad would have over an iPhone. At
>> the margins there is apparently a version of Quick Office on the iPad which
>> is accessible on that platform whilst it remains inaccessible on the iPhone.
>> However Pages will meet most word processing  needs and I do not routinely
>> use Spreadsheets on a mobile device.
>> 
>> So in essence the case for a blind user investing in an iPad in addition to
>> a phone seem very tenuous to me.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlark77
>> Sent: 14 November 2013 23:40
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: advantage of an iPad over an iPhone?
>> 
>> Just curious. What could be the advantage, say, of an iPad mini overthe
>> iPhone 5? I'm asking for a reason. I told somebody theother day that I use
>> my iPhone like a computer, more than I do a phone. I told them i E-Mail,
>> write files and so on and so on and so on. I take pictures, videos and so
>> on. Their reply was, "you really need an iPad, so you don't have to use your
>> 
>> phone like that." But do I? If I do, why? What are the differences between
>> the iPad and the iPhone 5?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
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