Dane, you might a actually hit on something here. I still think you did. I looked a lot closer at things and I see that the artist isn’t Brad Paisley. When I initially ripped the disc earlier, it told me multiple matches were found. I was really stupid, and didn’t listen to the artist name. The first result, which I picked, said Various Artists, not, Brad Paisley. Now, I feel like an idiot! I deleted the disk both from ICloud, as well as locally, then I popped the CD back in the drive. Now, it’s insisting on not bringing up the multiple matches found dialog anymore. Yes, I reset all caches. Yes, I reset all warning dialogs. Still, it’s refusing to pop that up again when I put the CD in the drive. It’s defaulting to the one apparently that I picked earlier. The weird thing though is, when I look in my track list table where it shows all the tracks on the CD, the artist now is showing up as Brad Paisley, not as Various Artists. yet, when I eject the CD from my drive, then I go under album view in the music section, then search for “Paisley,” I see the album, and the artwork was downloaded correctly, I barely have enough vision to see that, but it still says Various artists. So now, I need to figure out how the heck to reset the CDDB database, so I can then get that dialog to come back up, and look at my options again way more thoroughly. I’m wonderring like you said, if it being weirdly tagged with that one result may be my entire problem as far as the Brad Paisley not showing up. Now, as for the other songs showing up, I don’t have a clue! I turned off match both on my mac mini and on my phone, as well as on my other two macbooks, and on my IPad, then one by one, turned them back on. As I did, I now don’t see all that other crap, but BP still isn’t showing. So, yeah, the only thing I can think at this point, is what you said, that the thing isn’t getting correctly tagged, which does actually make sense, being that it’s showing various artists for some reason. I’d be scared to edit that manually in the get info dialog, as I honestly don’t know how the store has it tagged exactlyh. But, Dane, let me ask you this, wouldn’t it be such that if the track was! tagged where ITunes couldn’t naturally find it, that it’s supposed to then upload it to your ICloud? I ask this, for two reasons. One being, if that was the case, it didn’t do so. Two, if it had done that, then, even though it’s tagged wrong, wouldn’t it still show up once it was uploaded? O, K, it would show under Various Artists, not under Brad Paisley, I’ll give ya that, but still! shouldn’t it hypothetically be there at that point?
Chris. On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I think it updates itself from the Cloud and I should have been more > specific, you use the "Update Itunes Match" from your computer. > > I don't know whether I'm just picky but I decided to use a computer here for > my main iTunes Match base for want of a better way of putting it, that's > where all my iTunes library is, its the first computer/device I added to > iTunes Match and its where the information comes from through the Cloud for > all my other devices to Sync to. > > > On 16 Dec 2013, at 3:48 pm, Christopher gilland <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> How do you update ITunes match on I O S? I never have seen that option over >> there. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:30 PM >> Subject: Re: ITunes Match Driving me absolute nuts! >> >> >> An important thing to remember when using iTunes Match is that the CDDB >> information for the music you import from your CD collection must match >> exactly with that provided by iTunes Match, if it doesn't then all sorts of >> fun and games can be expected. >> >> Also you may need to use the "Update iTunes Match" function on your devices >> every now and then. >> >> There's also a cache which may need to be cleared every so often after >> you've signed out from iTunes match, at this point clear the cache in the >> Advanced preferences of iTunes and add your computer to iTunes Match again. >> >> >> On 16 Dec 2013, at 3:08 pm, Christopher Gilland <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> OK, I am about two drinks away from saying ITunes match is a piece of sh**! >>> I am running the most recent version of IOS 7, and my ITunes running on >>> OSX 10.9 Mavericks is totally 100% up to date as well. I’m using an IPhone >>> 5, not a 5S or 5C, just the original IPhone 5. Anyway, I had somewhere in >>> the neighborhood of about 4000 songs in my ITunes match. I removed every >>> one of them from my local Macintosh HD, as well as then going back and also >>> removing them from my Itunes Match ICloud. Mainly, I have these tracks all >>> on physical CD media, so I am not losing anything. I’m trying to revamp my >>> library for the holidays and basically only have my Christmas music >>> imported. Thing is, it’s going to be easier to do this over ITunes match, >>> being that I have multiple IOS devices plus, I have 3 mac computers: two >>> macbooks, and one mac mini. Yes, they’re all on Mavericks, and yes, they >>> all are running the most recent version of ITunes. Trust me, I’m not >>> stupid, I did verify this very thoroughly. Remember, I’m quite an advanced >>> IOS and OSX user, so believe me, that was one of the very bare first things >>> I checked to be sure of. And yes, I ran software update on all devices >>> both OSX and IOS just to be sure. Trust me, everything’s totally up to >>> date. >>> >>> Well, after deleting all my music both locally, and from the coud, I >>> noticed that though not on any of my mac computers, on both my IOS devices, >>> my IPhone 5, and my IPad 4, I keep seeing this damn Kenny G track popping >>> up which I don’t even remember ever importing. It’s not showing up in my >>> purchase history, so undoubtedly, it’s something that got ripped from one >>> of his CD’s that Mom and I both own. I don’t really even like his stuff, >>> so God knows how it got there! Anyway, I deleted it from my IOS devices >>> with a one finger flick down whilst in the actions rotor. Once gone, I >>> closed the music app from the apps switcher, and then I reopened it and >>> went to the artists tab. Instead of seeing nothing was there, guess what! >>> You guessed it partna. There came that stupid Kenny G track down again! >>> At this point, I’m saying something that totally would get me banned from >>> this list permanently if I said it or even abbrieviated it. Trust me, it >>> wasn’t what the hell! We’ll just say, change the last word to something >>> else. LOL! So, I look on my mac mini, which may I remind you again, I’d >>> deleted all music locally from, and also deleted everything from ICloud >>> originally from that system. I search locally, and also in the cloud for >>> Kenny G. Nothing at all pops up! Zilch! At this time, I’m totally >>> baffled! I look in the store menu of the menu bar under view my account… >>> and sure enough, it’s signed in with the correct apple ID, the same one >>> with the ITunes Match subscription. Just out of a hunch, I sign out, and >>> back in. I even went so far as to deauthorize my computer, then >>> reauthorize it again. I then, after doing so, went to the store menu, and >>> to update ITunes match. Once done, I closed the music app on my IPhone >>> from the app switcher, reopened it, double tapped on artists, and boom! >>> There’s Kenny G again! I think he wants to merry my IPhone! LOL, or stalk >>> it if nothing else. At anyrate, I’m going: I’ll be ** starred. So, I go >>> back to the mac mini, and search for Kenny G. It ain’t there! I look >>> again on my phone, it’s there. I update match again from the mini, then >>> look at my phone. It’s still showing up. OK, you think this is weird, you >>> ain’t heard nothing! yet! Then, I go to my macbook Pro. I pop open >>> ITunes, delete the whole library locally, then turn match on, only after >>> doing so. It analyzes everything, sees nothing is locally available to put >>> in the cloud, then shows nothing in my library locally or remotely. I for >>> good measure go to the store menu then update match. Again, nothing >>> afterward shows up. So now, I’m thinking, good! Maybe that killed that KG >>> track. Nope? I go back to my phone? and, boom! There’s not only! now that >>> Kenny G track, but now it’s showing all 4 freaking thousand! of my tracks I >>> previously deleted from the cloud, yet, my macs show nothing! Not even the >>> Kenny G. So, on my phone, I sign out of Match, I sign out of ITunes >>> sharing, and, even more, I sign out of the ITunes Store. I then turn off >>> ITunes Match, and set show all music under settings, music, to off. I then >>> closed music from the app switcher, closed settings as well, and rebooted >>> my phone. I don’t mean the home/sleep keys, I mean I literally powered it >>> off, waited about 30 seconds, then powered it back on. Oh by the way, no, >>> before you ask, none of my devices are jailbroken, and God kill me dead the >>> day I think about doing so! I’m sorry, but I highly! and I mean highyly! >>> object to doing that, but that’s for another post altogether. Anyway, >>> after rebooting, I signed back into the ITunes store, then I signed back >>> into ITunes sharing, and finally, I then turned on ITunes Match, and >>> finally last but not least, turned show all music back to on. I then >>> opened up the music app. It still shows all 4 something odd thousand >>> tracks! Yet, my computers show nothing! So, just to see if things really >>> were outta whack, I imported the Christmas album by Brad Paisley, (great! >>> great! album by the way if you’ve not heard it, would highly! recommend >>> it!) and I did this by ripping directly from my physical store bought CD. >>> This wasn’t even a burned copy. It was the physical original media. That >>> imported flawlessly on my mac mini. I then went to the store menu, and to >>> update ITunes Match, just in case it didn’t auto refresh. I’ve found that >>> if I don’t do that, it’s not pushing new imported content to the cloud, >>> unless it’s physically bought from the ITunes store directly. So once this >>> was done, I looked on my mini. The only album that showed was the Brad >>> Paisley disc. That’s correct. That’s what it should have done. I then >>> deleted it from my local library, and also killed the files from my trash. >>> I figured, well, it’s in the cloud, so no reason to take hard disk space. I >>> then went to my macbook pro, where the disc wasn’t physically insertted nor >>> imported to start with. I look in my albums view under music, and sure >>> enough. No Kenny G, no other 4 thousand tracks, however, Brad Paisley was >>> sitting there plain as could be, and played perfectly. I then went to my >>> phone and my IPad both. Both of them show all 4 thousand tracks including >>> Kenny G, but guess what? On neither device do I see Brad Paisley. I >>> finally decided to look on my other white 13 inch macbook, which hasn’t >>> been in the equasion until now. So, I sign into my ITunes account, and >>> authorize the machine, as frankly, on that white macbook, I really don’t >>> ever use ITunes. Anyway, I then turned on Match. Boom! Nothing popped up >>> except Brad Paisley. Just like it should do! Needless to say, I’m at a >>> loss! Back about two years ago when Match first was launched to the >>> public, I jumped right on board, and it worked great! Well after about a >>> year, things started screwing up left and right like this, so I didn’t >>> renew my subscription. Well, now, when I did renew it, as I needed to do >>> so due to certain circumstances of making things more convenient, I see not >>> only is it still buggy, but it’s way the heck worse! I’m sorry, but unless >>> we all can try to figure out maybe something I’m missing, which I highly >>> doubt, I’m about ready to throw this subscription away and tell Apple where >>> they frankly can stick that 24 bucks I spent. 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